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Windows 7: Businesses Save $$$ Moving to Microsoft Virtualization


27 Aug 2009   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 
Businesses Save $$$ Moving to Microsoft Virtualization

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Businesses Save Thousands Moving to Microsoft Virtualization

Customers can save $170,000 on average when switching from VMware; Microsoft management business grew 30 percent annually due to server virtualization.

"REDMOND, Wash. — Aug. 27, 2009 — Microsoft Corp. today announced that some business customers are saving on average $170,000 (U.S.) when they switch to Microsoft virtualization software from VMware Inc. software. Customers are turning to Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V and Microsoft System Center management tools to help reduce energy consumption, hardware costs and recurring licensing costs, and improve their overall management of virtual and nonvirtual applications, servers and computers.

Customers that have switched to Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V, System Center and other Microsoft virtualization solutions include Avanade; Brick Township Board of Education, New Jersey (U.S.); Convergent Computing; Crutchfield Corp.; INA (Croatia); Ingersoll Rand plc; Jackson Energy Authority; Mamut ASA (Norway); the National Concert Hall of Ireland; NetBenefits (U.K.); PoundHost Internet Ltd. (U.K.); Siemens Standard Drives (U.K.); T2 Systems Inc.; Voith IT (Germany); and University of Miami.

Strong customer adoption of server and application virtualization software helped drive growth of the Microsoft System Center suite of management tools. Microsoft recently reported that the company’s management division revenues grew more than 30 percent from 2008 to 2009 and is now at approximately $1 billion in annual sales.

Industry consulting firm Information Technology Intelligence Corp. recently published its “2009 Global Virtualization Deployment Trends Survey” of more than 700 IT professionals. The results showed that Microsoft made big year-over-year market share gains across small and midsize businesses and enterprise organizations. The survey showed current use of Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V is 32 percent. The survey also showed that 59 percent of the respondents plan to adopt Windows Server 2008 R2 Hyper-V in the next 12 to 18 months.

“The light switch has gone on for customers, and they realize they no longer have to pay a virtualization tax with VMware that creates an isolated, virtual island within their IT departments,” said David Greschler, director of virtualization and management marketing in the Server and Tools Business at Microsoft. “The System Center management suite and Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V provide a cost-effective, interoperable and scalable enterprise-class virtualization solution. As a result, more and more customers are switching to the Microsoft solution, and some are saving on average $170,000 when they switch.”

Customers Switch to Microsoft Virtualization

PoundHost is a fast-growing hosting service provider in Maidenhead, England, that embraced server virtualization as a way to curb hardware costs and lower hosting prices. However, the high cost of VMware software and lack of physical management tools hurt PoundHost’s competitiveness and ability to manage its entire infrastructure. PoundHost turned to Windows Server 2008 R2 Hyper-V technology to help reduce licensing costs by 80 percent and add new services. With the addition of Microsoft System Center management tools, automated server provisioning has reduced IT costs by more than $50,000 annually. The dramatic increase in virtual machine sales and reduced licensing costs has enabled PoundHost to increase profitability by 55 percent.

“We could use VMware tools to manage the virtual machines, but we wanted to offer server monitoring, backup and software-update services to increase our services and revenue,” said Matthew Munson, group technical director, PoundHost Internet Ltd. and BlueSquare Data Group Services Ltd. “VMware didn’t have a suite of tools to do these things. The Microsoft System Center products work with Hyper-V, so we could manage and provision servers much more easily than we could with VMware.”

Crutchfield, based in Charlottesville, Va., is a leading consumer electronics retailer with a mail-order catalog and e-commerce Web site. The company’s IT staff turned to virtualization to cut datacenter costs, improve IT staff productivity, and promote business agility. However, its VMware-based solution limited its server consolidation ratios, and a software upgrade would have cost $44,000. Instead, Crutchfield deployed a cost-effective solution using Windows Server 2008 with Hyper-V technology and the Microsoft System Center management suite. Today, Crutchfield has cut datacenter heating output by 50 percent and reduced physical servers by 30 percent. The IT staff uses Microsoft System Center to manage both physical and virtual servers, boosting IT staff productivity by 40 percent.

“We had so many reasons for building out our virtualization solution, but with the VMware-based platform we couldn’t make any headway,” said Craig Vanhuss, system administrator, Enterprise System Group at Crutchfield. “Since deploying Hyper-V, IT has shown a new level of agility and responsiveness. Thanks to our Microsoft virtualization solution, we are meeting the needs of the business while minimizing costs.”

More information about how to begin cutting costs, including case studies on PoundHost and Crutchfield, can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/virtualization. Microsoft product and solution experts at VMworld 2009 can be followed via Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/virtualization or by monitoring the hash tag #MS_Virt.

Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq “MSFT”) is the worldwide leader in software, services and solutions that help people and businesses realize their full potential.
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Businesses Save Thousands Moving to Microsoft Virtualization: Customers can save $170,000 on average when switching from VMware; Microsoft management business grew 30 percent annually due to server virtualization.

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27 Aug 2009   #2

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People might be saving money, but after spending a few days working with Hyper V 2008, I was not impressed in the least. It was a nightmare trying to attach my Vista machine (on a domain) to my Hyper V machine (not on a domain) simply to run the management tools to create a virtual machine. For our company, our virtualized stuff is on the web and mostly served up and run on Linux machines. That so called "island of virtualization" concept scoffed at above, is one of the primary goals of virtualization for my company.

Oh well, that's why there are options and choices out there. And I will be the first to admit that VMWare, when licensed, ain't cheap. But you can do a whole lot with their free tools.
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28 Aug 2009   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

One thing you hit the head right off is there being a large variety of options to choose from. MS is actually arriving late and now investing a lot more in virtualization which has now been reflected for the desktop as well as the server environments.
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29 Aug 2009   #4

W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi
 
 

Hi all
Cost is not the overriding requirement these days -- I know especially to US readers that might seem like one of the most heinous crimes to say "costs are NOT the overriding factor". Ease of use and reliability are often even MORE important when running a business that.s dependent on being available 100% to external customers.

It's no point driving your costs down to zero whilst losing all your customers. Of course you try and avoid spending UNNECESSARY money.

An example can be seen in the backlash customers have against companies using "Overseas Call Centres". Whilst the cost savings might have seen considerable to management, to customers their use was often totally unsatisfactory and many companies are beginning to relocate this stuff back home even if the cost is a bit more.

Currently the MS virtualisation products are cumbersome and very difficult to manage - but competition is great and I expect with a few years MS will be a real player in this market.

One of the main problems is that you invariably have to manage the whole "Virtual Server" from ANOTHER machine within the network -- problem if network is partially unavailable - or even worse have to manage it via a web interface / portal - same problem if network is inacessible.

Why these products can't be managed from the LOCAL machine they are installed on I really don't know but I suppose the "base kernel OS" doesn't support a GUI.

VMware ESX etc. definitely still edge it over MS but we'll see what happens soon.
Let battle commence.

cheers
jimbo
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29 Aug 2009   #5

Windows 7 Home Premium x32 SP1
 
 

Hi,

is there any info (official MS statement) about Virtualization rights (Can be installed in a virtual environment) - will license on Windows 7 Home Premium allow this?
I remember that EULA's Vista doesn't allow to install VM on Home Premium edition.
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29 Aug 2009   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I don't think you can say that "cost" isn't a factor though. For example, at my company, for production purposes we use VMWare ESX connected to a 3par storage area network.

However, in our other data center for stage, qa, and pilot purposes, the costs associated with using vmware and taking advantage of features like Vmotion run tens of thousands of dollars just for the licensing...not to mention the associated costs with the storage area network.

With that said, we just make do with VMWare ESXi...which is free and deal with slight cumbersome admin tasks by not having everything centralized. However, the associated pains here are far less than I experienced when I gave Hyper V 2008 a run for the money. Maybe later down the road, it will get better. But for the few dozen virtual linux boxes that we run....VMware ESXi seems to be a better fit, both functionally as well as administratively.
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29 Aug 2009   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Creer View Post
Hi,

is there any info (official MS statement) about Virtualization rights (Can be installed in a virtual environment) - will license on Windows 7 Home Premium allow this?
I remember that EULA's Vista doesn't allow to install VM on Home Premium edition.
In order to install a Microsoft operating system on a virtual machine, you must have a valid license to install and use that software. With Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate, Microsoft is providing a license to use Windows XP mode...which provides you with a free Windows XP box running inside of their own virtual software.

So, if you are using Home Premium...you could download something like Microsoft Virtual PC or Sun Virtual Box and install Windows XP as a virtual machine...but you would have to have a valid Windows XP license to run it and activate it.
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29 Aug 2009   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Creer View Post
Hi,

is there any info (official MS statement) about Virtualization rights (Can be installed in a virtual environment) - will license on Windows 7 Home Premium allow this?
I remember that EULA's Vista doesn't allow to install VM on Home Premium edition.
It has nothing to do with the EULA or OEM licensing but the edition itself simply lacking the necessary support. In 7 as well the Home Premium edition won't support the new XP mode as not seeing any support for the updated VPC there. Pro, Ultimate, or Enterprise are the choices.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
In order to install a Microsoft operating system on a virtual machine, you must have a valid license to install and use that software. With Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate, Microsoft is providing a license to use Windows XP mode...which provides you with a free Windows XP box running inside of their own virtual software.

So, if you are using Home Premium...you could download something like Microsoft Virtual PC or Sun Virtual Box and install Windows XP as a virtual machine...but you would have to have a valid Windows XP license to run it and activate it.
Downloading and running the VPC requires Windows to be activated and pass the WGA verification. For 7 the updated Windows installer tool also has to go on first before you see updates. Again the Home Premium editions in both Vista and 7 do not support the MS Virtual PC While you might slip past with the SUN program being a 3rd party tool there.
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29 Aug 2009   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

The Sun VirtualBox app works just fine on Windows 7 and so does VMWare Server 2.0. Both of these apps are worlds better than Microsoft Virtual PC and have far better support for non MS operating systems.
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29 Aug 2009   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower
 
 

The one main thing that still lacks with anything other then the XP mode is full access to all drives even usb devices while some VMs allow for a dvd drive. That can make the Grabinet cloud desktop program someone came across and wrote a guide become kind of a life saver if you use the Windows Live Mail Skydrive feature. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...e-desktop.html
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