| Windows 7: Old program doesn't run at same speed |
13 Oct 2012
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#1 | | windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode |
Old program doesn't run at same speed Am using an old program (ProEngineer) that doesn't perform at the same speed in Widows 7 Pro XP mode as it did on old XP machine. Don't know why. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS8500 OS windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode CPU Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd gen Motherboard Intel 7 Series/C216 chipset Memory 12 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT-640 Monitor(s) Displays Dell ST2420L (HDMI) Case Desktop Hard Drives 1TB SATA |
14 Oct 2012
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#2 | | |
Because it is running in a virtual machine. A computer running inside of a computer. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 PSU 875W Some Dell PSU <.< Hard Drives Samsung P830 256 GB, WD Raptor 150GB, 2x 1TB HDDs Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
17 Oct 2012
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#3 | | windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode |
After more searching have determined the problem is with the video. It takes forever to repaint the screen. Why is the windows system video not used in the virtual pc mode? Can it be changed? Windows system uses nvidia Geforce and the virtual pc mode uses S3-trio. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS8500 OS windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode CPU Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd gen Motherboard Intel 7 Series/C216 chipset Memory 12 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT-640 Monitor(s) Displays Dell ST2420L (HDMI) Case Desktop Hard Drives 1TB SATA |
21 Oct 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Buenos Aires |
Virtual machines are always slower than a real one, it's normal. Programs with video effects are mostly affected, particularly games, but any serious program that makes intensive use of the GPU will run sluggish on virtual machines in comparison with the real one. Question is, why not run it directly on the real machine under Windows 7? | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Sattelite A665-S6092 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7-740QM Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 330GT Screen Resolution 1366x768 Cooling Coolermaster Notepal U3 notebook cooling pad Hard Drives Samsung 840 SSD 500GB
1TB USB3 external HD Internet Speed 3mbps ASDL Antivirus Kaspersky Antivirus 2013 Browser Opera 12.15 x64 |
21 Oct 2012
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#5 | | windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode |
Program won't run in Windows 7. It is a high end commercial cad program from 2001. I am retired now and no longer have access to maintenance help for this CAD program. It starts with a batch program and I don't know how to fix it for Windows 7 or even if its possible. When I check the device manager in Windows 7 and Virtual PC the video card description is not the same. Why? Can it be made the same? The program runs fine with small parts but with a large assembly the repaint time is worse than my old 2001 PC, 800Mhz, 512 MB memory. I'm thinking my only solution is dual boot for Windows XP | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS8500 OS windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode CPU Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd gen Motherboard Intel 7 Series/C216 chipset Memory 12 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT-640 Monitor(s) Displays Dell ST2420L (HDMI) Case Desktop Hard Drives 1TB SATA |
22 Oct 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |
Hi John, welcome to the Seven Forums.
First, read this post about emulated S3 Trio GPU which Virtual PC and XP Mode use: Fix video problems in Win7 32bit virtual machine
Could you please post the batch file you mentioned, the one needed to run your CAD program here so we could take a look and see if there's something you could try to get your program running on Windows 7. Instructions on how to attach a file to your post: Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums
Kari | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Antivirus MSE, Windows Defender Browser Maxthon 3.5.2. Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
22 Oct 2012
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#7 | | windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode |
proe2001-stu.batThere is a directory c:\Proe\bin with 25 batch files including the one listed in the desktop icon to start the application. I hope the attachment procedure worked. I am comming to the conclusion that I will have to install Windows XP in a dual boot enviroment. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS8500 OS windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode CPU Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd gen Motherboard Intel 7 Series/C216 chipset Memory 12 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT-640 Monitor(s) Displays Dell ST2420L (HDMI) Case Desktop Hard Drives 1TB SATA |
22 Oct 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |
OK, John, the batch file shows your application is from pre-XP era, meant to be run on Win95 and NT environments. As such I believe there's no way to set it up so it could be run on Windows 7 or make it run faster and better on XP Mode.
You could try to install XP on VirtualBox instead of using XP Mode. Some older legacy applications run better on VirtualBox virtual machines than on same OS (XP) on Virtual PC. Free VirtualBox download here, you also need an XP install media, CD or ISO.
However, I think the dual boot idea would be the best thing to do.
Let us know what you decide, if the application finally works for you as you wanted.
Kari | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Antivirus MSE, Windows Defender Browser Maxthon 3.5.2. Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
23 Oct 2012
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#9 | | windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode |
I'm going with the dual boot method. I already started by shrinking the HD and adding new partition D, changed CD drive to E. Have not completed total transition. Need to use virtual PC, but now won't recognize CD drive. Went in and changed drive letter in virtual mode but no difference. Only thing I know to do is go back to Win 7 and change CD back to D and new partition to E. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS8500 OS windows 7 professional 64 bit & Virtual PC XP mode CPU Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd gen Motherboard Intel 7 Series/C216 chipset Memory 12 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT-640 Monitor(s) Displays Dell ST2420L (HDMI) Case Desktop Hard Drives 1TB SATA |
23 Oct 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |
Open XP Mode Settings: - Browse to folder C:\Users\Your_Username\Virtual Machines (default location)
- Select Windows XP Mode, right click it and select Settings
When Settings dialog opens: - Select DVD Drive on the left pane
- Select Access a physical drive on the right pane
- Select the new drive letter of your CD/DVD drive from the drop down menu
- Click OK to save settings
This tells XP Mode that you have changed the host system CD/DVD drive letter, no reason to go back disabling changes you have already made.
Kari | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Antivirus MSE, Windows Defender Browser Maxthon 3.5.2. Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) Old program doesn't run at same speed problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:45 PM. | |