XP Mode or VMWARE

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  1. Posts : 139
    Vista64
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    XP Mode or VMWARE


    OK, just got my XP Mode working. I looks nice and all, been putting it off a bit, anyway, I have a VMWARE license for 6.5.3, and am wondering what XP Mode would bring me over VMWARE. And yes, I have a separate licensed copy of XP here I could toss in vmware.

    So in the end, what benefits over vmware workstation would I see with XPmode ? I just don't see a good reason to have 2 visualization products on here.
    Last edited by johngalt; 18 Sep 2009 at 23:43. Reason: spell checked
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  2. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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    VMWare will give you support to run non-Microsoft based OS's if you want to. And VMWare and Sun Virtual Box are significantly faster than XP Mode. XP Mode gives you seemless apps...so if you would rather have that over a full virtual desktop...that would be a reason for choosing XP Mode.
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  3. Posts : 4,364
    Windows 11 21H2 Current build
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    Agreed. If you want the seamless app integration, go with XP Mode. If you want stability, performance, and versatility, go with VMWare / VirtualBox
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  4. Posts : 8,375
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
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    The larger advantage then simply seeing a boost performance wise with an alternate VM ware is being able to run a 64bit OS whereas the XP mode is the 32bit Pro as well as the Virtual PC itself limited to the 32bit Windows there. Custom installing Windows on a vhd to run on the VPC is also rather limited in other ways where the XP mode is preferred there.

    The XP mode is seemless as mentioned for things like access to all internal physical drives as well as now supporting usb pen/flash drives making those available. A custom install of Windows on a vhd for the VPC sadly lacks there. The other 3rd party VM wares may see floppy/dvd access only while offering a better performance value to make up the difference.
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  5. Posts : 4,925
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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    Trouble with vmware is that its commercial. You could consider giving virtualbox a go which is free.
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  6. Posts : 8,375
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    That's where most the intent is focused is towards the commercial not private home orientation. The XP mode itself is mainly intended for business application in order to provide a means for business to upgrade into 7 and even Server 2008 while not losing time in the process trying to update all the softwares and other things they use.

    The other VM wares have been out there much longer to start with having already gone through their betas and tweaking stages. As far as OS performance that sees a gain there while you still find things will lack at times.
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  7. Posts : 7,878
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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    swarfega said:
    Trouble with vmware is that its commercial. You could consider giving virtualbox a go which is free.
    VMWare Server 2.0 (runs just fine on Vista or Windows 7) is completely free as is VMWare ESXi 4.0 (hypervisor and intended for servers only)
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  8. Posts : 83
    Windows 7 Pro (64bit).
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    wwoods said:
    So in the end, what benefits over vmware workstation would I see with XPmode ? I just don't see a good reason to have 2 visualization products on here.
    I use VMWare Server on several Windows/7 installs now. No doubt in my mind that the VMWare stuff is much faster than the VPC set up.

    I have VMWare Server Vsn 2 on my Windows/7 64bit set up running 2 VM's at the same time and it works really well (a good use for all that RAM). One VM is Sun Solaris (for maintaining an app) and the XP VM it runs is an old PC I used to have with my 32bit Cisco VPN in it.

    The need for the Cisco 32bit stuff is that it installs device drivers - 32bit only - as at work we are NOT going to upgrade to the 64bit Cisco VPN yet, so have to suffer the 32bit versions for a while yet.

    I really like the tight integration that others have talked about with VPC and if MS get the performance thing resolved for general release it will replace my VMWare/XP VM for sure. If they don't, then I guess I'll keep the VMWare for a while yet!

    It has already been said: If you want that integration (and it works well), then go VPC, but if you want performance, go Virtual Box or VMWare.

    As of now, this is all free (apart from client VM licenses but even those can be "free" in the right situations), all of which is great news.

    Nice to have options...
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  9. Posts : 8,375
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    Integration or flexibility would seem a better analogy in some ways when comparing the XP mode and 32bit RC install on the VPC to the multiboot of 3 distros with the 64bit RC on the Portable version of Virtual Box there.

    The XP mode offers the full integration as far as access to internal drives/usb flash drives over uploading files by way of the WLM SkyDrive where file sizes as well as volume is a concern for the slower transfers there. The same can't be said for the 32bit RC on vhd there however where you still need something live SkyDrive.

    The one that seems to be slow with the VPC is the startup time there over what is seen with the Portable VBox which loads any of the OSs right away. But you are cut off and again need something like the SkyDrive bringing you back to square #1 despite the speed boost gain seen when loading things.

    Gaming is out for the most on either or all of them since you run into no OpenGL support being limited to the virtual video card there. Some initial problem with sound on the VBox were resolved later while no sound heard on the few games that will start up is typical while multimedia playback(audio mainly) in stereo not surround has worked for the most part without problems.
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  10. Posts : 139
    Vista64
    Thread Starter
       #10

    swarfega said:
    Trouble with vmware is that its commercial. You could consider giving virtualbox a go which is free.
    I dont see that as a problem, it being commercial, as I already own it, even if I dident, I would buy it if it was the superior solution.
    Last edited by wwoods; 21 Sep 2009 at 11:05.
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