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Windows 7 - Best VM solution for a 2gb-er |
10-14-2009
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Best VM solution for a 2gb-er For a 2Gb machine, what type of VM (WMware or Xp PC) works?
I can't afford to upgrade RAM ya'll so need to be tight and dangerous. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo ThinkPad T60 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz Motherboard Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Memory 2.00 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays ThinkPad Display Screen Resolution 1400x1050 Keyboard Standard Keyboard Mouse HID-compliant Mouse Hard Drives 100Gb SATA Internet Speed Cable Broadband - 54Mbps Other Info Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter |
10-14-2009
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#2 | | Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora |
What do you want to run in the virtual partition and what is your OS? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway - 2 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista and Windows7, sometimes Ubuntu and Fedora CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to 2.5GHz Quad Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse terrible devices, who wants them Hard Drives 5x HDD, 2x SSD, 6x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
10-14-2009
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Supposedly i am to boot my VHD from a USB HDD and need to have xp mode or VMware VM installed. Everything to be running on my local machine so no external ESX server etc. As for OS, it's a dual boot and i'm mainly using Windows 7.
I've tried VMware Server 2.0 and it smashed my RAM so that's a no go. About to Try Xp VPC as soon as the VHD is created. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo ThinkPad T60 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz Motherboard Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Memory 2.00 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays ThinkPad Display Screen Resolution 1400x1050 Keyboard Standard Keyboard Mouse HID-compliant Mouse Hard Drives 100Gb SATA Internet Speed Cable Broadband - 54Mbps Other Info Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter |
10-15-2009
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#4 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi |
Hi there
it won't be the vmware server that smashed your RAM but the amount of RAM you've allocated to the VM.
Try again but give the Virtual Machine say 512MB or even 1GB RAM. Maybe 640 KB will be a "sweet spot" on that machine.
You can run a VM with less RAM than you need on a Real machine. It's not a 1:1 relationship. This is a complex topic and beyond the topic requested here.
Virtual Server uses LESS overhead than VBOX, Virtual PC or Vmware workstation - and you can have the VM's running in the background.
Also when defining your VM config in vmware server specify the option to ALLOW Virtual Machine swapping -- this will stop your HOST from seizing up and specify the maximum RAM you'll allow ALL Virtual machines is 1 GB. Do this in the EDIT HOST on the right hand side as shown.
Enc screenshot.
Change the values to what I've suggested.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
10-15-2009
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Ok i will recreate the VM with the level of RAM allocation you've suggested. Be back here soon with results | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo ThinkPad T60 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz Motherboard Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Memory 2.00 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays ThinkPad Display Screen Resolution 1400x1050 Keyboard Standard Keyboard Mouse HID-compliant Mouse Hard Drives 100Gb SATA Internet Speed Cable Broadband - 54Mbps Other Info Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter |
10-15-2009
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That seems to do it, lowering the VRAM. I had allocated the max RAM before lol.
System now at 80% but better than 95% like before. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo ThinkPad T60 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz Motherboard Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Memory 2.00 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays ThinkPad Display Screen Resolution 1400x1050 Keyboard Standard Keyboard Mouse HID-compliant Mouse Hard Drives 100Gb SATA Internet Speed Cable Broadband - 54Mbps Other Info Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter |
10-15-2009
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I use VMware player with a 2gb machine. You can create VMs with EasyVMX!: Virtual Machine Creator | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Windows 7 RC 64bit CPU amd Motherboard msi Memory 2gb Graphics Card nvidia Sound Card audigy 2 zs Monitor(s) Displays 21" lcd widescreen Keyboard old HP Mouse 5 button Hard Drives 300gb in 3 partitions (1 for winxp, 1 for win7-64, and 1 for data) Internet Speed cable Other Info xpmode installed and working :)
dualbooting with xp pro on same hdd |
10-15-2009
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#8 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi |
Hi there
if you want to create VM's for using with vmplayer use the 100% FREE QEMU -- no online stuff needed.
I never trust "Online" apps as you never know what's actually happening. Using VMware Player to Create Images for New Virtual Machines
However the OP's point wasn't in CREATING VM's but in the amount of resources required to RUN them (quite a different topic).
I wiouldn't worry too much about the CPU overhead -- depends on what the VM is running and the first few times its powered on it might be doing things like indexing etc.
Another point is when you create the VM spit the disk into allocate by 2GB slices rather than allocate the whole storage initially --- unless your VM is running a Data base or web server.
VM's DO EAT RAM for breakfast but running a 640 MB RAM XP vm on a 2GB machine shouldn't cause too many problems.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
10-15-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 Hi there
if you want to create VM's for using with vmplayer use the 100% FREE QEMU -- no online stuff needed.
I never trust "Online" apps as you never know what's actually happening. The only thing that site does is create the config file for you and a virtual harddrive file that will expand. You set it up to boot from your ISO file and install your OS. Its very safe.
I'm not associated with the site in anyway, I've just used it a few times. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Windows 7 RC 64bit CPU amd Motherboard msi Memory 2gb Graphics Card nvidia Sound Card audigy 2 zs Monitor(s) Displays 21" lcd widescreen Keyboard old HP Mouse 5 button Hard Drives 300gb in 3 partitions (1 for winxp, 1 for win7-64, and 1 for data) Internet Speed cable Other Info xpmode installed and working :)
dualbooting with xp pro on same hdd |
10-15-2009
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#10 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 |
Something else to think about : It would appear from your specs that you system does not have the "V" chip needed to run Microsoft's new Virtual PC. Thus, you will not be able to run XPM (XP Mode). So working with VM Ware is a good way to go. There is also Virtual Box from Sun MicroSystems if you are looking for something else to play around with.
VM Ware player has a large selection of VM Players, Linux and other OS (not Mac or Windows) pre-made up on their web site. Click here for more information. Here is another site that offers VM Ware Player OSs. Ensure you copy down the Login and Password information. Some of the OSs require a Root password, it will also be listed under Login/Password. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a4302f OS Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz Memory 12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25" Screen Resolution 1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Case Mid Tower Cooling Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet) Hard Drives Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
1 - 2.5" 500 USB External HDD
1 -1 Tb USB External HDD Internet Speed 10 Mbit (realistically 500 Kbit - 1.2 Mbit) Other Info Speakers - Bose Desktop (Excellent Sound)
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