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Windows 7: Questions about Windows Virtual PC and its Hard Drive Image

24 Dec 2013   #11
Kari

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The virtual pc is not the best ever in the visualization world,however it has many problem even in installing it.
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I have never had any issues in installing Windows Virtual PC, no problems whatsoever. If you are not able to install it, ask us and we'll help you.

Kari
Dear Kari,

I am not using v p and I don't need support in it as I am not interested it ( personal choice).

If you are Virtual PC expert and have the time to help others, herewith below some cases waiting for you!

Can not install Virtual PC
Win7 -> VirtualPC -> Win7 -> Windows can't communicate with the device
Windows XP Mode wont work.
Cannot install Windows Virtual PC
Resolution goes back to 640x480 when restarting the OS
Can't attach USB or see printer in XP mode
Problem installing prolific 2303 drivers in virtual xp mode
XP Mode using update and Virtual Machine is slow
XP Mode Integration Features not enabled.
XP mode and scanner MUSTEK 1200USB
virtual pc will not connect
Win XP Mode runs slow
XP-mode crashes when opening \\tsclient\C or other Win7 disks


Good luck and enjoy it.

Mahmood Shehab
You really do not take it well when you are told you are wrong?

Let me summarize this:
  • Your response to original post was in no way helping, did not answer the OP's question
  • Recommending a paid for solution instead of a free one is not a solution in this case (VirtualBox and a paid (valid) XP license instead of free XP Mode on Virtual PC)
  • Not a single one of the 13 links on your last post works. Please fix them
  • About those 13 threads behind your non-working links, only two had anything to do with installing Virtual PC, and I have helped to solve both of those (both were typical user errors, nothing wrong with Virtual PC)
  • The rest of those threads are also solved
  • Check the virtualization section again, all threads. There are far more threads about issues with VirtualBox and VMware products than threads about issues with installing Virtual PC and / or XP Mode
  • Oracle VM and VirtualBox are not the same thing, as you stated in your first post. Oracle VM means Oracle VM Server which for normal private user is not a good solution to run virtual machines. It is a completely different product than Oracle VirtualBox
Kari


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24 Dec 2013   #12
Mahmood Shehab

Windwos 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mahmood Shehab View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mahmood Shehab View Post
The virtual pc is not the best ever in the visualization world,however it has many problem even in installing it.
Quote:
I have never had any issues in installing Windows Virtual PC, no problems whatsoever. If you are not able to install it, ask us and we'll help you.

Kari
Dear Kari,

I am not using v p and I don't need support in it as I am not interested it ( personal choice).

If you are Virtual PC expert and have the time to help others, herewith below some cases waiting for you!

Can not install Virtual PC
Win7 -> VirtualPC -> Win7 -> Windows can't communicate with the device
Windows XP Mode wont work.
Cannot install Windows Virtual PC
Resolution goes back to 640x480 when restarting the OS
Can't attach USB or see printer in XP mode
Problem installing prolific 2303 drivers in virtual xp mode
XP Mode using update and Virtual Machine is slow
XP Mode Integration Features not enabled.
XP mode and scanner MUSTEK 1200USB
virtual pc will not connect
Win XP Mode runs slow
XP-mode crashes when opening \\tsclient\C or other Win7 disks


Good luck and enjoy it.

Mahmood Shehab
You really do not take it well when you are told you are wrong?

Let me summarize this:
  • Your response to original post was in no way helping, did not answer the OP's question
    - You are not the right person to judge if its helping or not, only the person who is having the issue and any member or guest.
  • Recommending a paid for solution instead of a free one is not a solution in this case (VirtualBox and a paid (valid) XP license instead of free XP Mode on Virtual PC)
    - VirtualBox is free application, and I am recommending helpful software like Disk2vhd powered by Microsoft
  • Not a single one of the 13 links on your last post works. Please fix them
  • About those 13 threads behind your non-working links, only two had anything to do with installing Virtual PC, and I have helped to solve both of those (both were typical user errors, nothing wrong with Virtual PC)
    - It's been fixed , don't worry a lot is coming in their way in the section of the forum!
  • The rest of those threads are also solved
    - I am pointing installing application .. configuring and troubleshooting not only the installation which will fail in most cases, and its solved in the forum doesn't mean it's a good product..
  • Check the virtualization section again, all threads. There are far more threads about issues with VirtualBox and VMware products than threads about issues with installing Virtual PC and / or XP Mode
    - I am not saying Virtual Box is the best , but with my personal experience and what I found on the web about the mentioned vm applications, I will approximate the problems/issues I faced out (negative points!)
    --VirtualBox (30%)
    --VMware (40%)
    --Virtual PC and / or XP Mode (90%)

  • Oracle VM and VirtualBox are not the same thing, as you stated in your first post. Oracle VM means Oracle VM Server which for normal private user is not a good solution to run virtual machines. It is a completely different product than Oracle VirtualBox
    - They are both Virtualization applications in my point of view.
    - There are many products from oracle and the formal name of the virtual box is Oracle VM virtualbox
- on more last thing before I close this subject, which I am wasting unnecessary time on it , see how often Virtualbox is updating and compare it with virtual PC .
Just think why is this??
in Virtualbox they are improving the application frequently , however in virtual PC case they don't develop free app much.

Kari
Find my answer in blue.

Thanks,
Mahmood Shehab
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24 Dec 2013   #13
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote:
- You are not the right person to judge if its helping or not, only the person who is having the issue and any member or guest.
As another member, I conclude that your posting does not help the OP. His original question is specifically about Windows Virtual PC, so we should keep to the topic and address his concerns.
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24 Dec 2013   #14
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

You really do not take it well, I see.

I will try to write it so simple that even you could understand it:

It is not accepted by Microsoft, in other words it is not legal, to use Windows XP Mode virtual machine on anything else than Windows Virtual PC running on a Windows 7 Professional or better host. Using Disk2VHD or any other tool to transform it, port it to another virtualization platform, is against the End User License agreement.

When the question is "Can I delete this Virtual PC vhd file?", the answer is most definitely not "Use VirtualBox". When OP (and you) were then told that Windows XP can be used without a paid for product key and license on Virtual PC but not on VirtualBox (the free Windows XP Mode versus a self obtained XP install media), you again posted a nonsense post telling that VirtualBox does not need a license. Again, no answer to issue we are talking about.

Kari
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25 Dec 2013   #15
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

BAM!
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25 Dec 2013   #16
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Whilst we are dicussing this matter, I'd like your views on the following:

Assume you have a legal Windows OS product key that was never used. With that key you install that OS under VMware Player (or vBox). Then you move the VMware Folder to another PC and run the OS under VMware (or vBox) control on that PC.

Theoretically you never installed the OS directly on any physical PC and VMware Player (or vBox) has become the host for the OS. I wonder whether the EULA allows moving that VMware installation folder around to several PCs. I know it works, but is it legal?
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25 Dec 2013   #17
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Interesting query Wolfgang. This is my take and I'm just guessing without reading a huge EULA. Since VM is a machine although virtual, it would be considered a single machine so is legal even if the host is different. One of those gray areas maybe.
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