| Windows 7: VMware Player? VMware Server? |
02 Jan 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
VMware Player? VMware Server? I did a search on the various VMware threads but I have to admit got a little confused after a while. I have installed WVPC and XPM and have some apps set up in XPM. But I am a little disappointed with the speed, or lack of, of the virtual environment. I've seen a number of posts which suggest that VMware provides a virtual environment that is a bit snappier, so I figured I'd give it a try.
Do I use VMware Server or Player? I got the impression Server was more along the lines of WVPC; is that correct? I downloaded the Player, but then found another program there called VMware-vix-1.8.0-203739. I'm not sure what that is. If it's an either/or for Server/Player, what does one get you that the other doesn't?
Since I already have XPM installed and set up, did I understand correctly that if I install Player it will "absorb" the existing XPM and virtual license so that I don't have to do anything after installing Player? Do I need to use the vCenter Converter if I install Player? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU E8400 E0 stepping @ 4.05GHz Motherboard Abit IP35-E, BIOS v.18b1 Memory 2x2GB + 2x1GB Mushkin Graphics Card eVGA GTS 250SC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Sony FW900 Screen Resolution 1600x1024 Keyboard PS2 Mouse PS2 PSU Corsair 550W Case CM Scout Cooling Scythe Mugen2 Hard Drives WD Black 1TB SATA Internet Speed FiOS |
02 Jan 2010
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As far as i am aware MS only offer two free VMs for use with their VPCs, XP that come with XPM and Server 2003 VM. For WMware products, no such free VMs (not to my awareness i do not believe). You will need to make one up, either via the VMware Stand alone Converter or other VHD creator which are compatible with VMware. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo ThinkPad T60 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz Motherboard Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Memory 2.00 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays ThinkPad Display Screen Resolution 1400x1050 Keyboard Standard Keyboard Mouse HID-compliant Mouse Hard Drives 100Gb SATA Internet Speed Cable Broadband - 54Mbps Other Info Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter |
03 Jan 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by aem As far as i am aware MS only offer two free VMs for use with their VPCs, XP that come with XPM and Server 2003 VM. For WMware products, no such free VMs (not to my awareness i do not believe). You will need to make one up, either via the VMware Stand alone Converter or other VHD creator which are compatible with VMware. Is this the same as the VMware vCenter Converter which I mentioned? If so, what's the correct order of action? Do I run the Converter first on my existing XPM image, then install Player (or Server)? Or is it the other way around?
I'm not sure I have to use the Converter. This is from another thread - 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Yes, from within the VMWare Player, go to File and there is an option to convert your XP Mode hard drive right there. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU E8400 E0 stepping @ 4.05GHz Motherboard Abit IP35-E, BIOS v.18b1 Memory 2x2GB + 2x1GB Mushkin Graphics Card eVGA GTS 250SC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Sony FW900 Screen Resolution 1600x1024 Keyboard PS2 Mouse PS2 PSU Corsair 550W Case CM Scout Cooling Scythe Mugen2 Hard Drives WD Black 1TB SATA Internet Speed FiOS |
03 Jan 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by tony22 
Quote: Originally Posted by aem As far as i am aware MS only offer two free VMs for use with their VPCs, XP that come with XPM and Server 2003 VM. For WMware products, no such free VMs (not to my awareness i do not believe). You will need to make one up, either via the VMware Stand alone Converter or other VHD creator which are compatible with VMware. Is this the same as the VMware vCenter Converter which I mentioned? If so, what's the correct order of action? Do I run the Converter first on my existing XPM image, then install Player (or Server)? Or is it the other way around?
I'm not sure I have to use the Converter. This is from another thread - The Converter is used to convert your "Physical" HD to a "Virtual" HD (VHD). After you convert, you create your new VM via WMware product you installed, and use this VHD to boot from. It's all self explainatory once you create the new VM. I only have used the Server.
Last edited by aem; 03 Jan 2010 at 07:52 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo ThinkPad T60 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) DuoCore T2400 @ 1.83GHz Motherboard Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Memory 2.00 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays ThinkPad Display Screen Resolution 1400x1050 Keyboard Standard Keyboard Mouse HID-compliant Mouse Hard Drives 100Gb SATA Internet Speed Cable Broadband - 54Mbps Other Info Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connection
11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Express Adapter |
03 Jan 2010
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The VMWare converter can convert physical machines into VM's and it can convert virtual machines from one format to another. This is optional and some people may never use it.
The VMWare Player 3.0 and the new VMWare Workstation have an option built-in to auto convert the base Windows XP Mode VM into a vmware based virtual machine. The key here is that it converts the "base Windows XP Mode VM"...meaning that if you already set up Windows XP Mode and then customized it and installed apps onto it...it's not this VM that you would be converting. Rather you would be converting the base starting point with nothing loaded. Thus, after conversion you would have to reinstall your apps and make your customizations. The beauty of using the VMWare product to convert the XP image is that it does it and preserves the activation. If on the other hand, you used the VMWare converter, the XP Mode virtual machine would see a major hardware change and would thus prompt for activation.
VMWare Server is more for IT people who need to setup a box and leave virtual machines running even when they aren't logged into the machine. The VMWare Player 3.0 is for home users and people who just want to run VM's on their desktops when they are using the machine. A home user could use both or either of these products.
If the VMWare Player 3.0 product (free) doesn't have all of the functionality you want, you can invest in the VMWare Workstation Product...which is $189...but does offer more functionality. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
03 Jan 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Thanks. Can VMWare Player instantiate multiple virtual sessions, or only one? And what does VMware-vix-1.8.0-203739 do? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU E8400 E0 stepping @ 4.05GHz Motherboard Abit IP35-E, BIOS v.18b1 Memory 2x2GB + 2x1GB Mushkin Graphics Card eVGA GTS 250SC Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Sony FW900 Screen Resolution 1600x1024 Keyboard PS2 Mouse PS2 PSU Corsair 550W Case CM Scout Cooling Scythe Mugen2 Hard Drives WD Black 1TB SATA Internet Speed FiOS |
03 Jan 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by tony22 Thanks. Can VMWare Player instantiate multiple virtual sessions, or only one? And what does VMware-vix-1.8.0-203739 do? VMWare Player 3.0 can indeed launch multiple concurrent virtual guest machines.
With regards to VIX, it's something that I don't use, but here is what I found on Google VMware: VIX API Blog: What is VIX and why does it matter? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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