| Windows 7: Machines which CAN run XP mode |
06 Mar 2010
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Machines which CAN run XP mode  I skimmed this part of the forum & see mostly complaints about people who CAN'T run XP mode on their Windows 7 machines. I really wish people would report their success with specifics, such as make & model, to guide others who haven't yet bought anything. Manufacturers, sellers and reviewers don't mention this either, so it is very hard to determine if a machine CAN run XP mode. Just a compatible CPU is not enough, so you can't count on that.  A friend of mine recently acquired an Acer 5430-6670 with Win 7 Pro on it. He was able to run in XP mode without any problems.  None of the sellers advertising this product mention this capability. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo 3000 N200 0769-ANU laptop OS Win XP, Win 7 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core T2310 Memory 3 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family Hard Drives 250 GB Hitachi 5200 RPM 2.5" |
06 Mar 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 8,025 posts |
I don't have any machines which are unable to run Windows XP Mode. I've got a laptop with a core 2 duo, a desktop with a quad core at home, a desktop with a dual core at work and they all work just fine.
However, I don't use XP mode as performance stinks. Instead I use VMWare Player 3.0. It runs circles around XP mode. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
06 Mar 2010
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| | win7 ultimate / virtual box 1,383 posts weston super mare, UK |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 I don't have any machines which are unable to run Windows XP Mode. I've got a laptop with a core 2 duo, a desktop with a quad core at home, a desktop with a dual core at work and they all work just fine.
However, I don't use XP mode as performance stinks. Instead I use VMWare Player 3.0. It runs circles around XP mode. windows xp mode is laggy difficult to setup folder sharing and only displays in 16bit colours unless you disable the integration features , and XP Mode is only available in Win 7 - Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate
I love Windows 7 but I'm not impressed with XP mode
I personally use Sun Virtualbox and it has none of these limitations and runs very well | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number built my own OS win7 ultimate / virtual box CPU Intel Core i7 3770K,1155, Ivy Bridge Motherboard MSI Z77A-G43 Memory GSkill Ripjaws Z Series 1600 CL 9.0 16GB Graphics Card KFA2 GeForce GTX 670 EX OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-E gfx card Sound Card onboard Nvidia HDMI audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VK222H 22" widescreen LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard logitech Mouse logitech MX518 PSU Corsair HX 750W ATX2.2 Modular Cooling Antec 25 Kuhler H2O 620 Hard Drives Kingston 128gb SSD
OCZ Vertex 90gb SSD
500GB WDCaviar 16mb 5000KS
320GB WDCaviar 16mb 3200AAKS sata 2
1TB Samsung 16mb HD103SJ sata 2 Internet Speed 7mb adsl |
06 Mar 2010
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I am aware of the drawbacks both of you have mentioned.
Would either of you be so kind as to post the make & model of the commercially-available machines which you have found DO run Win XP mode? That's information which no one seems to share. I see your personal specs indicate you have built machines from scratch, but what about machines people can buy over the counter? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo 3000 N200 0769-ANU laptop OS Win XP, Win 7 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core T2310 Memory 3 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family Hard Drives 250 GB Hitachi 5200 RPM 2.5" |
06 Mar 2010
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| | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit 10,288 posts Austin, Texas |
AMD Virtualization Compatibility Check Utility
This is for AMD chips. I'll see if I can find companion info on Intel. I know that I had it at one time.
haven't found it. Here are a couple of more links which may be of interest. Virtual Varia VirtualBox Windows Virtual PC Home Page Windows Virtualization Team Blog x86 virtualization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
07 Mar 2010
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Whether or not a machine can run XP mode is not just due to the CPU. The BIOS has to permit it, and the motherboard has to be compatible. I found that out when I added a Celeron E3200 CPU to an ECS GF7100PVT-M motherboard, hoping to get that capability. The motherboard turned out to be incompatible, although otherwise the combination works just fine.
Intel has a list of the chipsets that are supposedly compatible with XP mode, but I would much prefer for the manufacturer of the computer to specify that (or not). By & large they don't. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo 3000 N200 0769-ANU laptop OS Win XP, Win 7 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core T2310 Memory 3 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family Hard Drives 250 GB Hitachi 5200 RPM 2.5" |
07 Mar 2010
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| | win7 ultimate / virtual box 1,383 posts weston super mare, UK |

Quote: Originally Posted by artfd Whether or not a machine can run XP mode is not just due to the CPU. The BIOS has to permit it, and the motherboard has to be compatible. I found that out when I added a Celeron E3200 CPU to an ECS GF7100PVT-M motherboard, hoping to get that capability. The motherboard turned out to be incompatible, although otherwise the combination works just fine.
Intel has a list of the chipsets that are supposedly compatible with XP mode, but I would much prefer for the manufacturer of the computer to specify that (or not). By & large they don't. i guess it's still in it's infancy really ? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number built my own OS win7 ultimate / virtual box CPU Intel Core i7 3770K,1155, Ivy Bridge Motherboard MSI Z77A-G43 Memory GSkill Ripjaws Z Series 1600 CL 9.0 16GB Graphics Card KFA2 GeForce GTX 670 EX OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-E gfx card Sound Card onboard Nvidia HDMI audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VK222H 22" widescreen LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard logitech Mouse logitech MX518 PSU Corsair HX 750W ATX2.2 Modular Cooling Antec 25 Kuhler H2O 620 Hard Drives Kingston 128gb SSD
OCZ Vertex 90gb SSD
500GB WDCaviar 16mb 5000KS
320GB WDCaviar 16mb 3200AAKS sata 2
1TB Samsung 16mb HD103SJ sata 2 Internet Speed 7mb adsl |
07 Mar 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 8,025 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by artfd I am aware of the drawbacks both of you have mentioned.
Would either of you be so kind as to post the make & model of the commercially-available machines which you have found DO run Win XP mode? That's information which no one seems to share. I see your personal specs indicate you have built machines from scratch, but what about machines people can buy over the counter? The only manufactured PC that I have is my laptop. It's a Dell Latitude E6400 with the Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 CPU running at 2.4Ghz. The rest of my home PC's at this time and my work lab boxes are all custom builds. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
07 Mar 2010
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 584 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by artfd  I skimmed this part of the forum & see mostly complaints about people who CAN'T run XP mode on their Windows 7 machines. I really wish people would report their success with specifics, such as make & model, to guide others who haven't yet bought anything. Manufacturers, sellers and reviewers don't mention this either, so it is very hard to determine if a machine CAN run XP mode. Just a compatible CPU is not enough, so you can't count on that.  A friend of mine recently acquired an Acer 5430-6670 with Win 7 Pro on it. He was able to run in XP mode without any problems.  None of the sellers advertising this product mention this capability. Only those that don't meet minimum requirements cannot run it. That's basically 2GB RAM and a CPU that supports virtualization technology (VT-x for Intel and AMD-V for AMD). You can look up your CPU specs on whether or not it supports that. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5Q PRO Turbo Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card MSI Radeon HD 5850 Sound Card Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 225BW PSU Corsair HX650 Case Antec Nine Hundred Hard Drives (2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3 |
08 Mar 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by artfd You can look up your CPU specs on whether or not it supports that. The CPU is not the only limiting factor, even allowing for the other conditions you just described. The motherboard and the chips on it can also prevent virtualization from being usable. From Intel's mouth: "Intel® Virtualization Technology also requires a computer system with a chipset, BIOS, enabling software and/or operating system, device drivers, and applications designed for this feature."
Intel has a downloadable utility you can run (forget where it is at the moment) on a machine with an Intel chip in it to determine whether or not it can run XP mode. I ran it on my E3200 Celeron installed on my old motherboard & was surprised to find the "CPU" was not compatible. I wrote to Intel about this discrepancy. They said the CPU was indeed capable of virtualization, but that their utility tested all the hardware at once to see if virtualization was possible. It would have been nice if the utility itself said that, instead of implying that the CPU was at fault. The Intel rep then pointed me to the information quoted in the first paragraph. What gets me is that computer & motherboard manufacturers and the sellers of these products do not seem to know whether one of their products works (or doesn't work) with Windows 7 running XP mode. I think shoppers will need to take a bootable CDROM with the detection utilities on it, and run it on any machine or motherboard they are considering. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo 3000 N200 0769-ANU laptop OS Win XP, Win 7 CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core T2310 Memory 3 GB Graphics Card Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family Hard Drives 250 GB Hitachi 5200 RPM 2.5" Machines which CAN run XP mode problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:49 AM. | |