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Windows 7: XP disappeared after 7 and ....


09 Mar 2010   #21
Arc

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
This is not a difficult thing to do, especially if you are familiar with using the command prompt.

Cheers!
Robert
In fact, it is the easiest way to solve the problem. It is easier than have a startup repair for about five times, or install easybcd and add an entry using it.

But it also needs a restart.

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10 Mar 2010   #22

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kittleboy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jonathan_King View Post
Try running a startup repair om 7. It should detect the XP and add it to the BCD.
It didn't work
Really ? It is a process thet generally never fails in this situation.
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Hope you got it already fixed as per Jonathan's advise .
There is another way (just an alternative) to fix that issue. Download EasyBCD 2.0 Beta and install it in win 7. then add a windows xp boot entry using it. After restarting, you will get a dual boot between win 7 and xp.
what is windows xp boot entry, and where to add it?
I don't want to restart the computer.

Thanks my friend, hope it works....
In first pic, click on the red bordered button : the 2nd pic will appear. click on the red bordered button, select win xp/nt/2k/2k3, and then in the third pic, click the red bordered button, thats all.

But my dear friend, whatever method of fixing the issue you may follow, restart/reboot is the must at the end to take the process effect. It is unavoidable.

Edit : you may try softpedia.com/EasyBCD insted of the beta if you want.
I did it before,
I could add windows XP ( to choose at startup) but when i clicked on it it said one file ( i think ) missing or something like that; but i didn't touch my xp files at all ( I really couldn't remove it even by right click > Delete )
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11 Mar 2010   #23

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kittleboy View Post
Well, I think i can say that I am familiar at least a bit with command prompt what should i do, please just give your instructions step by step.
kittleboy;

This is not a difficult thing to do, especially if you are familiar with using the command prompt. You will create the menu entry for XP manually. Hopefully, the necessary files are still there, if not, if it doesn't work the first time, we can find the correct files and move them to where the need to be.

From Windows 7 open an elevated command prompt: "Start", "All Programs", "Accessories", right click on command prompt and run as administrator.

Then type these four lines, one at a time, press enter in between.

Bcdedit /create {legacy} /d “WinXP”

Bcdedit /set {legacy} device boot

Bcdedit /set {legacy} path \ntldr

Bcdedit /displayorder {legacy} /addlast


You can look at this in more detail here: http://www.sevenforums.com/installat...wont-boot.html

At the reboot, you should have a menu entry for your XP. If not, we need to look at your system in more detail:

You would need to attach a picture of the Drive Management Utility drive map:

Screenshot and Upload using MWSnap

Screenshot with Paint

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...en-forums.html

Please let us know how we may assist you best?

Cheers!
Robert
After rebooting and choosing WinXP :
" Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupted:
<Windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Please re-install a copy of teh baove file
. "



I didn't remove anything, i tried but i couldn't.
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11 Mar 2010   #24

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kittleboy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
You can look at this in more detail here: http://www.sevenforums.com/installat...wont-boot.html

You need to attach a picture of the Drive Management Utility drive map:

Screenshot and Upload using MWSnap

Screenshot with Paint

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...en-forums.html
After rebooting and choosing WinXP :
" Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupted:
<Windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Please re-install a copy of teh baove file
. "

I didn't remove anything, i tried but i couldn't.
kittleboy;

This is not difficult to fix. You have given good information above. There are three XP files that must be in the "Boot" partition so you can dual boot, as shown in the link provided above:

"Three files must be copied: boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM, and ntldr. Folder options must be set to "Show Hidden Files". I had to use "Properties" to give my user permission to access the files. Then it was a simple copy and paste. These steps are detailed here: Solve Dual Boot Problem with Windows 7."

Before proceeding, we must have a screen shot of your drive map. The links quoted above will show you how to do that. It should look something like this:

Name:  XP_plus_7_01.png
Views: 4
Size:  7.2 KB

Cheers!
Robert


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11 Mar 2010   #25

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kittleboy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
You can look at this in more detail here: http://www.sevenforums.com/installat...wont-boot.html

You need to attach a picture of the Drive Management Utility drive map:

Screenshot and Upload using MWSnap

Screenshot with Paint

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...en-forums.html
After rebooting and choosing WinXP :
" Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupted:
<Windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Please re-install a copy of teh baove file
. "

I didn't remove anything, i tried but i couldn't.
kittleboy;

This is not difficult to fix. You have given good information above. There are three XP files that must be in the "Boot" partition so you can dual boot, as shown in the link provided above:

"Three files must be copied: boot.ini, NTDETECT.COM, and ntldr. Folder options must be set to "Show Hidden Files". I had to use "Properties" to give my user permission to access the files. Then it was a simple copy and paste. These steps are detailed here: Solve Dual Boot Problem with Windows 7."

Before proceeding, we must have a screen shot of your drive map. The links quoted above will show you how to do that. It should look something like this:

Attachment 60099

Cheers!
Robert
Here it is:
XP disappeared after 7 and ....-1.jpg
Just please say step by step;
Thanks
And, Don't forget that XP was installed first, then I installed 7.


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12 Mar 2010   #26

 
 

That is fine kittleboy;

XP disappeared after 7 and ....-kittleboy_01.png

The XP partition is the only "Primary" and "Active" partition and must have all of the boot code. From Windows 7, look at the files in the XP Partition (I am assuming you can do that) and see if these files are there:

Name:  XP_plus_Win7_01.PNG
Views: 1
Size:  25.7 KB

The next thing to check is to open: boot.ini as seen in the snap shot above and verify it is correctly pointing to XP in the C partition:

Name:  boot.jpg
Views: 4
Size:  34.0 KB

Please let us know what you find. Attach screen shots if it would help.

Cheers!
Robert


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12 Mar 2010   #27

 

for XP partition( drive where XP is installed ):
XP disappeared after 7 and ....-1.jpg
I think this is what you want.

But for boot.ini;
well, I couldn't open boot.ini through Run ( it says: Windows cannot find 'boot.ini'. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again.) And i know that i typed in correctly, so i did this:
Right click on my computer> properties > System protection > Advanced tab > Start up and recovery --> settings; I remember that there was an Edit button under section Default operating system, but now, there isn't so, I couldn't access to boot.ini
XP disappeared after 7 and ....-2.png


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12 Mar 2010   #28

 
 

If you look carefully in the C folder, there is no boot.ini file!!

You can search for it.

You can create a new text file, copy this into the file:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

Save the file as: boot.ini

and try to boot to XP again ...
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12 Mar 2010   #29

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
If you look carefully in the C folder, there is no boot.ini file!!

You can search for it.

You can create a new text file, copy this into the file:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

Save the file as: boot.ini

and try to boot to XP again ...
Oh, yes;
But this one only has one OS, if i enter this, wouldn't it show only XP at the beginning for choosing OS ?
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12 Mar 2010   #30

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kittleboy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by iseeuu View Post
If you look carefully in the C folder, there is no boot.ini file!!

You can search for it.

You can create a new text file, copy this into the file:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

Save the file as: boot.ini

and try to boot to XP again ...
Oh, yes;
But this one only has one OS, if i enter this, wouldn't it show only XP at the beginning for choosing OS ?
Trust me, the Windows 7 bootmgr is looking for this file and cannot boot to XP without it. This is what you will see when you reboot:

Name:  win7_plus_XP_02.PNG
Views: 5
Size:  14.0 KB

Cheers!
Robert


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