XPMode in Windows 7,Now Ubuntu in Windows 7


  1. Posts : 851
    win 7 build 7600.16385 x64
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    XPMode in Windows 7,Now Ubuntu in Windows 7


    XPMode in Windows 7,Now Ubuntu in Windows 7

    Well i guess most of the members here Prefer Windows over Ubuntu
    still for those few members who got ubuntu as secondary boot,Now can port Ubuntu in Windows 7.

    Free application Portable Ubuntu for Windows runs an entire Linux operating system as a Windows application. As if that weren't cool enough, it's portable, so you can carry it on your thumb drive.

    So you have heard of Linux and one of its most popular flavors (Ubuntu) and want to try it out on your Windows system. (Most people probably don’t know what Linuxis and where it came from.) So, if you are new to Linux I just wanted to quickly mention that the name is derived from Linus Torvalds (the creator of Linux) a kick-ass Software Engineer and Computer Scientist from Finland.

    To make a long story short Ubuntu is a community developed operating system that is perfect for laptops, desktops and servers. Whether you use it at home, at school or at work Ubuntu contains all the applications you’ll ever need, from word processing and email applications, to web server software and programming tools.

    Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge. You do not pay any licensing fees. You can download, use and share Ubuntu with your friends, family, school or business for absolutely nothing.
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  2. Posts : 1,487
    Windows 7 x64 / Same
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    Wow, what will they think of next? How did they develop this so quickly? Wasn't XP Mode pretty much hush-hush until like 1 or 2 weeks ago?
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    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
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    That's OLD news -- you can run most OS's in a Virtual Machine --- even Windows 3.0 if you want to and almost ANY Linux distro -- and this has been available for AGES and AGES..

    The Reverse is true as well -- it's easy running any version of Windows in a Linux box on a virtual machine.

    VBOX runs on Linux (free) so does vmware.

    If you re a bit adventurous you can even try XEN -- this is the Hypervisor Microsft is talking about in it's "Virtualisation" for LARGE enterprises.

    What's slightly different about the "XP compatability Mode" is the much tighter integration of XP from within the main OS. Unlike "Classical VM's" the XP virtual machine can use a lot of "Native Windows Kernel" code itself.

    Of course this has its own downside as well -- if the "VM" gets contaminated in any way then it *could* effect the Host. A True classical VM has much less opportunity to infect the host (unless it's done via networking in the way as networked physical machines can transmit infections).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Posts : 4,925
    Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
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    Ive ran every version of windows in virtual pc in the past. Its fun to explore old systems. Its also a good way to try out linux if your curious about the dark side.
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  5. Posts : 1,487
    Windows 7 x64 / Same
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    jimbo45 said:
    That's OLD news -- you can run most OS's in a Virtual Machine --- even Windows 3.0 if you want to and almost ANY Linux distro -- and this has been available for AGES and AGES..

    The Reverse is true as well -- it's easy running any version of Windows in a Linux box on a virtual machine.

    VBOX runs on Linux (free) so does vmware.

    If you re a bit adventurous you can even try XEN -- this is the Hypervisor Microsft is talking about in it's "Virtualisation" for LARGE enterprises.

    What's slightly different about the "XP compatability Mode" is the much tighter integration of XP from within the main OS. Unlike "Classical VM's" the XP virtual machine can use a lot of "Native Windows Kernel" code itself.

    Of course this has its own downside as well -- if the "VM" gets contaminated in any way then it *could* effect the Host. A True classical VM has much less opportunity to infect the host (unless it's done via networking in the way as networked physical machines can transmit infections).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    True...but I didn't see any mention of VM software...
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  6. Posts : 851
    win 7 build 7600.16385 x64
    Thread Starter
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    jimbo45 said:
    That's OLD news -- you can run most OS's in a Virtual Machine --- even Windows 3.0 if you want to and almost ANY Linux distro -- and this has been available for AGES and AGES..

    The Reverse is true as well -- it's easy running any version of Windows in a Linux box on a virtual machine.

    VBOX runs on Linux (free) so does vmware.

    If you re a bit adventurous you can even try XEN -- this is the Hypervisor Microsft is talking about in it's "Virtualisation" for LARGE enterprises.

    What's slightly different about the "XP compatability Mode" is the much tighter integration of XP from within the main OS. Unlike "Classical VM's" the XP virtual machine can use a lot of "Native Windows Kernel" code itself.

    Of course this has its own downside as well -- if the "VM" gets contaminated in any way then it *could* effect the Host. A True classical VM has much less opportunity to infect the host (unless it's done via networking in the way as networked physical machines can transmit infections).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    oh i thought the virtual ubuntu is new but its only windows seven is new and not the VM ubuntu!!!
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    jimbo45 said:
    That's OLD news -- you can run most OS's in a Virtual Machine --- even Windows 3.0 if you want to and almost ANY Linux distro -- and this has been available for AGES and AGES..
    Theres been a few projects like this one out for a few years now
    KDE on Windows - Vista Forums

    What's slightly different about the "XP compatability Mode" is the much tighter integration of XP from within the main OS. Unlike "Classical VM's" the XP virtual machine can use a lot of "Native Windows Kernel" code itself.

    Of course this has its own downside as well -- if the "VM" gets contaminated in any way then it *could* effect the Host. A True classical VM has much less opportunity to infect the host (unless it's done via networking in the way as networked physical machines can transmit infections).
    Applications running from the VM environment are instanced via COM object (salaxhost) and they themselves can not communicate with the host, the VM handles negotiation between the application and the Host via this activeX instance. This separation causes virtualized applications to become less responsive than they would when normally run on the VM's desktop but this maintains separation to keep the VM environment separated from the Host environment and prevents automatic infections of both desktops unless you execute a virus in both environments via your communication settings like Networking, Serial, WiFi, DVD, USB, Internet, Email ... and other devices or applications you execute on either environment

    If you have Windows Search installed on the VM you can open an instace of Explorer and browse C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr.exe , the session tab shows the connected user as RDP#<sessionnumber>

    XPMode in Windows 7,Now Ubuntu in Windows 7-rdp_session.jpg

    Looking at the process list shows an application instance of Firefox running from the VM using the process called vmsal.exe, your Antivirus just couldn't protect you from infection while you where using any application running from the virtualized desktop because it couldnt protect the environment the application is originating/created from and thats from the VM's Operating System.

    XPMode in Windows 7,Now Ubuntu in Windows 7-firefoxinstance.jpg

    Procmon shows the process's rdpinit.exe, rdpshell.exe and wfar.exe as handling VM Process's being called by vmsal.exe on the Host
    XPMode in Windows 7,Now Ubuntu in Windows 7-proclist.jpg
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  8. Posts : 234
    Vista H.P. SP1 x32 Seven RC x64
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    jimbo45 said:
    What's slightly different about the "XP compatability Mode" is the much tighter integration of XP from within the main OS. Unlike "Classical VM's" the XP virtual machine can use a lot of "Native Windows Kernel" code itself.

    There's nothing like this in XP Mode

    XP mode is just a virtualPC with "Application publishing" and "Remote application" feature via RDP.
    All of this can be done manually without XP Mode, but XP mode allow you to do it in some clics

    Windows XP Mode Internals &ndash; Part 2 (Application Publishing Magic) - Within Windows
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  9. Posts : 17,545
    Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
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    raj1402 said:
    XPMode in Windows 7,Now Ubuntu in Windows 7

    Well i guess most of the members here Prefer Windows over Ubuntu
    still for those few members who got ubuntu as secondary boot,Now can port Ubuntu in Windows 7.
    Downloaded, installed(*), nothing happens. Would like to try. What am I doing wrong?

    (*)
    - extracted to C:/users/kari/downloads/portable_ubuntu
    - opened command prompt as administrator
    - gave command CD C:\Users\Kari\Downloads\Portable_Ubuntu
    - gave command run_ubuntu_portable
    - HD runs about 20 seconds, then nothing
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