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Windows 7: Virtual XP in Win 7: Firewire

04 Nov 2009   #11

me xp vista

you left out some of the quote
"However, the royalty which Apple and other patent holders initially demanded from users of Fire Wire (US$0.25 per end-user system) and the more expensive hardware needed to implement it (US$1$2), both of which have since been dropped" the term have been dropped means it is free.
IEEE 1394 is NOT proprietary by definition. The definition of proprietary is "ONE that possesses, owns, or holds EXCLUSIVE right to something"
Apple, Texas Instruments, Sony, Digital Equipment Corporation, IBM, and STMicroelectronics all share the patent, and therefore is not proprietary.

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07 Nov 2009   #12

Win 7 64bit
Really Dumb Question

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MBernard View Post

I believe I've got good news about running a Nikon Coolscan ED4000 to run in W7 x64.

I found Bob Johnson's website, and a page called 'Getting a Nikon Scanner to Run on 64-bit Vista'. It's at:

Getting a Nikon Scanner to Run on 64-bit Vista - Photo Tips @ Earthbound Light

I followed his instructions exactly: downloaded NikonScan 4.03 for Vista x86, and installed it in compatibility mode in Windows 7 x64, using 'Vista SP 2' as the OS it had worked in.

Then I copied/pasted his 'scanners.inf' file (on his webpage), and put it and 'NKScnUSD.dll' in a new folder. NB: He says you find the .dll in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Nikon\Driver\Scan1394", but mine was empty. It was in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Nikon\Driver\ScanUSB".

I turned on the NikonScan, opened Device Manager (the Nikon Scan was listed, if I remember right, under 'Other Devices' - it's now under Imaging Devices, so I can't be sure of the exact name), and followed his instructions about installing the drivers from my new folder.

It worked. I've just scanned a slide - in Windows 7 x64!

(I also found a workaround that involves installing a program called Vuescan, copying 1 driver, and uninstalling - it's at Manual Focus Forum / Nikon Coolscan Scanner and Vista 64. But Bob Johnson's workaround seems simpler.

Hope this works for you.

I thought I was going to have to trash my Nikon 4000 ED! I am very anxious to see if this solution works for me but I don't know how to "copy/paste" Johnson's "scanners.inf" file and wind up with a functioning file. Is there a way to save it as an .inf file?

Sorry to be so obtuse.

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08 Nov 2009   #13

Windows 7x64 + XP Mode

Hi Gerry

* You're not obtuse at all. I've just installed the retail of Windows 7, so I had to reinstall the Nikon Scan workaround. I'd made notes of what I'd done in the W7 beta, but even so, I had to keep double-checking them.

>>I don't know how to "copy/paste" Johnson's "scanners.inf" file and wind up with a functioning file. Is there a way to save it as an .inf file?

The easiest thing is to go to the website, Getting a Nikon Scanner to Run on 64-bit Vista - Photo Tips @ Earthbound Light. The scanners.inf file is halfway down the page, in a box. Select everything in the box, beginning with:

;========================= Begin of scanners.inf ===============================

- down to and including the line:
;========================= End of scanners.inf ===============================

Copy it with Ctrl C, open Notepad, paste it with Ctrl V, save it as 'scanners.inf'. Then copy it to the relevant folder.

* NB: In May when I posted, I said that I found the *file 'NKScnUSD.dll' in:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Nikon\Driver\ScanUSB", not in*"C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Nikon\Driver\Scan1394".

This time, when reinstalling, I did find it in the....\Scan1394 folder. So you may find it in either place. Wherever you find it, copy it to the same folder as 'scanners.inf'.

My folder, FWIW, is called 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Nikon\Windows 7 workaround'. But it could be called anything you want, as long as it's a subfolder of C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Nikon.

If this message is too bitty to follow, let me know and I'll re-post the whole procedure, revised.

Best wishes

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09 Nov 2009   #14


It detects drivers for all of my hardware, except for the Nikon scanner. ...
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09 Nov 2009   #15

Windows 7x64 + XP Mode


Was this after you'd worked through the workaround?

I found that if I turned on the NikonScan, pre workaround, it showed up as 'Other Devices' in Device Manager. After doing the workaround, it turned up in Imaging Devices.

Most importantly, after I'd done the workaround, the NikonScan software icon appeared on my desktop, and I could scan negs and slides.

Can you give more detail of what you've done?

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10 Nov 2009   #16

Win 7 64bit
Thanks for saving my Nikon 4000 ED Scanner, Mary

After my first post to you, I decided to try downloading the scanners file from Bob Johnson's site. Since it was an htm file I was not certain what to do with it. Ultimately, though I am not sure this was necessary, I just changed the suffix to "ini" and it worked fine (in conjuntion with Johnson's procedure as futher elucidated by your comments).

I have scanned a few slides without a hitch -- Hooray! In fact, I am thinking this configuration may be more stable than was the case with my aging xp system on which my Nikon scanner was a bit cantankerous at times.

I had upgraded to the "professional' version of Win 7-64 on my new computer hoping there would be some way to run the scanner in the xp virtualization mode but from what I see posted, the firewire option is not there. Thus, the solution worked out by you and others (without help from Nikon) is a godsend. THANKS!

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10 Nov 2009   #17

Windows 7x64 + XP Mode


>>I just changed the suffix to "ini" and it worked fine<<

It should actually be 'inf' not 'ini', but if it works for you...


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11 Nov 2009   #18

Win 7 64bit
More scanner woes


Sorry, I meant "inf" not "ini". I told you I was obtuse. Unfortunately, after getting my Nikon 4000 ED scanner to work initially with Win 7, the computer no longer recognizes that it exists. I have come to the conclusion that the problem is the scanner itself rather than the OS or scanner software. As I mentioned earlier, I had been having the same kind of trouble intermittantly with my old computer running XP. And when I reunited the scanner and the old computer today they wanted nothing to do with each other. I tried different cables but that did not help. Although the scanner appears to initialize as it should, it does not seem to send a signal to the computer. I guess its time to "move on". Nevertheless, I still appreciate your efforts and that of the others who have figured out how to make at least a "working" Nikon scanner function under Win 7-64. I hope your scanner takes you to Windows 8 and beyond.


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