Access XP Mode files from Windows 7

fishnbanjo · 30 Jun 2010

Goodnight Kari, I have to take my meds in just a few moments and go to bed also but wanted to give Jill this info, If your DEFAULT Font is anything other than Courier, Helvicta, Arial, Pica and Elite (preferably Arial or Courier which are 2 of the Standards)
please make it so that one of them is the Default Font Style and preferably 10 or 12 dot pitch (DPI). The reason I am doing this is the HP and HP II were built around the original FONT set and stayed true to them, the HP III (all Laser Printers) did but believe it was the HP III P that came with the newer standards and began giving problems when older programs were used. When HP brought out the HP 4, HP 4 P and 4 L they all had the HP II emulation style set built into their engines. When I worked for Navy Medicine and we ran into issues with printer that typed other than what we expected we'd immediately see if the printer had HP II emulation built in and if it did we'd set the printer to HP II and everything was right as rain, the only time we had further issues is when some user got it into their head to use one of the more exotic type sets Windows NT allowed them to and we'd get garbage and we'd explain why they could not. When the HP 5 came out things got appreciably better, I'm hoping we can establish your Brother can emulate HP. If I cant get back to you tonight or it doesn't straighten out we can attack again tomorrow. One final thought for the night is to use the HP LJ IIP driver, this is the standard used by HP, Brother and Alps to solve many issues in Windows NT4 and still apply to NT based Windows OS's.

jmayeraz · 01 Jul 2010

fishnbanjo

Thanks for replying. I've been out all evening. I'll do this in the morning and get back to you.

For the record, my printer is networked ...it's connected to a router. It's not connected to my computer.

Should I follow the steps above and connect it to my computer (I'll have to move stuff around to make it reach). Or can I disconnect it from the router ... and go through the same steps?

Except I guess then it won't "find" it. Hmm...

Suggestions?

It will be at least 10 hours before I get back to the computer.

fishnbanjo · 01 Jul 2010

Jill,
No problems, I have Oncology Physical Therapy today and will be out most of the afternoon anyway, you should be fine doing it as a network printer but you might have to connect it to a PC in the first instance then once running move it back to the network but we can take that one step at a time. I was hoping to find a .pdf of your manual to see if there were internal settings in your printers setup menu which would allow you to specify it as an HP II, III or 4 but no joy finding it.

jmayeraz · 01 Jul 2010

No luck so far today.

Few things:

I uninstalled the printer and then hooked it up via USB directly to my computer. When I go to install it, I am unable to figure out how to tell it to install an HP LJ IIP printer. The dialog is asking for a specific location on my computer ... rather than listing printer types and allowing me to choose.

That being said, when the Brother drivers are installed, I can to into properties and change the driver. I installed HP LJ IIp and set it to that. Didn't work.

I also found the setting directly on the printer to set it to emulate HP Laserjet. But it didn't work.

I called Brother .. they blamed it on the software.

You said to set the default font to courier .. .but I'm not sure where I'd do that.

Still working on trying different things. Just wanted to post something in case you check in.

Jill
I'm still working on trying different things

jmayeraz · 01 Jul 2010

Just figure out how to tell it I have a HP LJ IIp attached to my USB port. But it doesn't matter.

You know ... Medisoft is previewing in the wrong font. It doesn't even care which printer I'm potentially sending it to at that point. After it previews, I could select any printer. Thoughts?

The software company does not provide tech support on this version. But my history with the tech support at that company is that they make you pay a lot of money BEFORE you even talk to them. Then they tell you they don't have an answer for you. Very frustrating.

As a reminder ... I mentioned above that it worked very briefly after set the printer to "download true type fonts). But that quit working. So I did manage to get the program to both preview and print correctly. I can't get back to that point.

fishnbanjo · 02 Jul 2010

Jill I found this on the parent website on requirements for Windows 7 and Vista OS:

Medisoft Hardware Requirements

Workstation System Requirements

Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz or higher
1GB of available hard disk space
2GB of RAM (3GB for Vista Business)
16+ Color Display
Windows XP Professional

Windows 7 and Vista Users

Medisoft 16 now supports Windows 7 Professional and Windows Vista Business Edition Only. **While Medisoft 16 now supports Windows 7 and Vista, Revenue Management currently only works with Windows XP Professional. This means that Windows 7 Home, Vista Home, Home Premium & Ultimate are not supported by any Medisoft version at this time. If you have Vista Home or Home Premium, consider using the 'Windows Anytime Upgrade' service which allows you to upgrade your version of Vista by downloading a file. Click here for more details.
Server System Requirements

Core 2 Duo or Quad Core 2.4 GHz or higher
2GB of available hard disk space
3GB of RAM
16+ color display
Windows 2003 Server or WIndows 2008 Server 32 Bit ONLY.

Notes

We develop and test off of the most current release of the above mentioned operating systems.
Recommendations are for the most current releases.
Novell NetWare not supported with Medisoft v16
XP and Vista Home are not supported.
Wireless Networks are not recommended or supported.
Upgrades from over 3 versions old may require professional data conversion

Mediosft Clinical EMR Software System Requirements

Workstation System Requirements

Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz or higher
1GB of available hard disk space
2GB of RAM (3GB for Vista Business)
16+ Color Display
DVD Optical Drive
Windows XP Professional

Server system

Quad Core 2.66GHz or Xeon 2.66GHz or higher
4GB of RAM
32GB+ System Drive
500GB + Data Drive
RAID controller perferred
1Gbps netword card
1024x768 Video
DVD Optical Drive
1500VA+ UPS Battery
Separate operating systems and data partitions or dedicated hard drive. Data partition must be a non-conflicted network and drive letter changed to P:, Domain infrastructure and tested backup system are also required.

Sever operating system

Windows 2003 Server or 2008 Server(Enterprise or Standard edition) with latest service packs
Printer Recommendations

HP LaserJet 1300 or higher. Microwize will not support any other printers.

jmayeraz · 02 Jul 2010

Whew... I thought you forgot about me.

I'm not running Medisoft 16. I'm running Medisoft 11 which Medisoft no longer supports.

I am not upgrading for two reasons:

1. The newer version won't allow me to directly access the data through ODBC drivers.
2. The newer version costs a lot and it's a crappy piece of software. Ultimately the company I contract for is going to move away from Medisoft and is not willing to upgrade the software at this point.

So I"m stuck trying to get Medisoft 11 to print correctly in XP Mode (since it won't run on Windows 7).

Any more thoughts?

Jill

fishnbanjo · 02 Jul 2010

also found there was a firmware revision in 2008 Firmware update don't know if you did it or if it will be of assist.

Did find Windows 7 drivers for it which might be a big help:

Drivers, utilities and software updates for your Brother Product

and finally got a working .pdf of your printers manual! Woot!!!! Here is the emulation info:

Printer Emulation Support 1
Your machine will receive print commands in a printer job language or emulation. Different operating systems
and applications will send the print commands in different languages. Your machine can receive print
commands in a variety of emulations and has an automatic emulation selection feature. When the machine
receives data from the computer, it automatically chooses the emulation mode. The default setting is
Auto(Epson).The machine can choose from the following combinations:
Your machine has the following emulation modes. You can change the setting by using the control panel.
�� HP LaserJet Mode
The HP LaserJet mode (or HP mode) is the emulation mode in which this printer supports the PCL6
language of a Hewlett-Packard® LaserJet laser printer. Many applications support this type of laser printer.
Using this mode will allow your printer to run at its best with those applications.
�� BR-Script3 Mode
BR-Script is an original Brother page description language and a PostScript® language emulation
interpreter. This printer supports level 3. The BR-Script interpreter of this printer allows you to control text
and graphics on the page.
For technical information about PostScript® commands, see the following manuals:
• Adobe Systems Incorporated. PostScript® Language Reference, 3rd edition. Addison-Wesley
Professional, 1999. ISBN: 0-201-37922-8
• Adobe Systems Incorporated. PostScript® Language Program Design. Addison-Wesley Professional,
1988. ISBN: 0-201-14396-8
• Adobe Systems Incorporated. PostScript® Language Tutorial and Cookbook. Addison-Wesley
Professional, 1985. ISBN: 0-201-10179-3
�� EPSON FX-850 and IBM Proprinter XL Mode
The EPSON FX-850 and IBM Proprinter XL modes are the emulation modes that this printer supports to
meet the industry-standard for dot matrix printers. Some applications support these dot matrix printer
emulations. Use these emulation modes so your printer will work well when printing from those types of
applications.
Auto (Epson) - default Auto (IBM)
HP LaserJet HP LaserJet
BR-Script3 BR-Script3
EPSON FX-850 IBM Proprinter XL

and how to set emulation:

Setting the Emulation mode 7
a Press Menu, 4, 1.
(For DCP models, press Menu, 3, 1. )
b Press a or b to choose Auto(EPSON), Auto(IBM), HP LaserJet, BR-Script3, Epson FX-850 or
IBM Proprintrer.
Press OK.
c Press Stop/Exit.
Note
We recommend that you set the emulation setting with your application software or network server. If the
setting does not work properly, choose the required emulation mode manually using the control panel
buttons of the machine.
Printing the Internal Font List 7
You can print a list of the machine’s internal (or resident) fonts to see how each font looks before you choose it.
a Press Menu, 4, 2, 1.
(For DCP models, press Menu, 3, 2, 1.)
b Press Start. The machine prints the list.
c Press Stop/Exit.
Printing the Print Configuration List 7
You can print a list of current printer settings.
a Press Menu, 4, 2, 2.
(For DCP models, press Menu, 3, 2, 2.)
b Press Start. The machine prints the settings.
c Press Stop/Exit.
Restoring default printer settings 7
You can return the machine’s printer settings to the default settings. Fonts and macros loaded to the
machine’s memory will be cleared.
a Press Menu, 4, 3.
(For DCP models, press Menu, 3, 3.)
b To restore the default settings, press 1.
c Press Stop/Exit.

With a little luck we might get you going yet..... :)

fishnbanjo · 02 Jul 2010

jmayeraz said:

Whew... I thought you forgot about me.

I'm not running Medisoft 16. I'm running Medisoft 11 which Medisoft no longer supports.

I am not upgrading for two reasons:

1. The newer version won't allow me to directly access the data through ODBC drivers.
2. The newer version costs a lot and it's a crappy piece of software. Ultimately the company I contract for is going to move away from Medisoft and is not willing to upgrade the software at this point.

So I"m stuck trying to get Medisoft 11 to print correctly in XP Mode (since it won't run on Windows 7).

Any more thoughts?

Jill

OK my other post deals with your printer directly, sorry it took so long, between searching and Dr appointments I was not on the forum very long since yesterday just bits and spurts but w/o real facts to give you.

My guess is you should probably pick whichever printer emulation supports what V11 of your Medsoft manual says it supports.

jmayeraz · 02 Jul 2010

I understand being busy. I'm quite grateful that you're helping me.

I tried all the emulations and printed the list of the machine's internal fonts to see how each font looks. *** Should "Courier New" be on the list? It's not.

I'm doing the firmware update now to see how that helps.