| Windows 7: even the store bought sealed windows 7's are not genuine? |
29 Aug 2010
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even the store bought sealed windows 7's are not genuine? going thru hell here...........the windows 7 enterprise that was installed by the retailer on my HD is now apparently not genuine. I thought it had activated when i hooked the computer up to the web, have not had any issues for over three months now....yet the other day i get the black screen, and the popup message "windows not genuine" every hour this was a from a sealed win 7 ultimate case! are the counterfits getting that good that they are duplicating the black packaging and printed disc labels? how the hell does one get REAL windows 7! anyone had issues with best Buy ripping them off this way? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number homebuilt OS WIN7 Ultimate, 64bit OEM CPU i5-750 quad core Motherboard MSI P55-GD55 (MS-7589) (CPU1) Memory 8GB dual channel DDR3 @ 668MHZ (9-9-9-24) 4 x 2GB each Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD5750 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays LG widescreen LCD 1920 x 1080 FLATRON Keyboard generic Mouse microsoft wireless PSU SEASONIC M-12D 850 watt sli ready Case ANTEC DARK FLEET (biggest one they make) Cooling case: 6 x 120mm fans 2 x 140mm fans, CPU: Corsair H50 Hard Drives 2 x WD 500 GB SATA drives, room for 8 more in the drive bays. 1 WD USB 320 GB used for backup the system. Internet Speed bloody slow thanks to Canadian ISP's throttling our net Other Info soon to have a ZALMAN RESERATOR just for the GPU...also dedicated 500 GB of virtual memory for paging file,caching |
29 Aug 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |
If you went to a legit dealer and have a sealed pack. I think that you are ok.
MS has started a new validiation procedue, still has some bugs. Activate by phone, if the key does not work a rep will come on. Explain it to him Activate Windows 7 by Phone | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
31 Aug 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
Is it "Enterprise" or "Ultimate"? Their is a difference and you mentioned both in your original post. Did you get a COA sticker with the product code on it?
Last edited by alphanumeric; 31 Aug 2010 at 09:40 AM..
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
31 Aug 2010
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#4 | | Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM Toronto, Canada |
As Richc46 said, the validation procedure has bugs. I use Microsoft Technet downloads and even they have been branded 'not genuine' on occasion. Usually after a few attempts or a reboot it works OK.
On a couple of occasions it suddenly became 'not genuine' after I'd done the monthly 'Microsoft Tuesday' updates. This has happened to me in both Vista Ultimate SP2 and Windows 7 Ultimate. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 45mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
31 Aug 2010
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#5 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjöršur IS |
I'm using currently a Windows 7 X64 from technet. Windows 7 X64 Enterprise version.
Didn't have any activation problems at all --
I've also installed Windows 7 X86 and Windows 7 X64 Professional from technet also with no activation problems.
Just try re-booting or doing a Windows 7 Upgrade from your initial installation using the same install ISO. That sometimes fixes the "Not Genuine" validation error.
Another solution is to Change the Product key -- and then input the key you got from technet.
Sometimes you actually NEED to do this -- I think with Enterprise office 2007 you had to re-set the product key --can't remember but it did the trick.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
31 Aug 2010
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if you want something done right, do it yourself.............. a quote i have heard and over and one that i stand by. The one time i let someone else install something for me, i get burned. just gonna drop the coin (MORE COIN) and buy Windows 7 ultimate from another store. best buy has crooks working for them. > | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homebuilt OS WIN7 Ultimate, 64bit OEM CPU i5-750 quad core Motherboard MSI P55-GD55 (MS-7589) (CPU1) Memory 8GB dual channel DDR3 @ 668MHZ (9-9-9-24) 4 x 2GB each Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD5750 Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays LG widescreen LCD 1920 x 1080 FLATRON Keyboard generic Mouse microsoft wireless PSU SEASONIC M-12D 850 watt sli ready Case ANTEC DARK FLEET (biggest one they make) Cooling case: 6 x 120mm fans 2 x 140mm fans, CPU: Corsair H50 Hard Drives 2 x WD 500 GB SATA drives, room for 8 more in the drive bays. 1 WD USB 320 GB used for backup the system. Internet Speed bloody slow thanks to Canadian ISP's throttling our net Other Info soon to have a ZALMAN RESERATOR just for the GPU...also dedicated 500 GB of virtual memory for paging file,caching |
31 Aug 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ulti. x64 KANSAS |
Might you give this a try before you buy a new key. Genuine Microsoft Software | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway GT5692 OS Windows 7 Ulti. x64 CPU AMD Phenom 8450 triple-core 2.10 ghz Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radion HD 3200 Monitor(s) Displays Gateway FPD1775W Screen Resolution 1280x720 Hard Drives 465.6613 Gibibytes |
31 Aug 2010
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I think the root cause is in the original statement - Windows 7 Enterprise from a retailer. Considering Enterprise is volume only, if this really is an Enterprise install, it is 99.9999999% likely to be illegitimate. VL versions of Windows 7, including Enterprise, are *not* for resale. If you got it with a PC other than from your IT department at work or school (etc), that copy is not genuine. Specifically, Windows 7 Enterprise does *not* come in any sort of packaging for retail, so if you have a Windows 7 Enterprise "box", you can be sure it's fake. It might be a good fake, but it's still fake. Also, the Windows 7 Enterprise trial is 90 days, so that sort of goes with what you are seeing - at 90 days, it starts telling you it's no longer genuine, and at some point in the future it'll stop working entirely. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/e.../cc442495.aspx Quote: After the 90-day Trial expires, if you wish to continue to use Windows 7 Enterprise, please note that you will be required to purchase and perform a clean installation of Windows 7, including drivers and applications. Please keep this in mind; Windows 7 Enterprise is not available through retail channels. Again, if you have a Windows 7 Enterprise "box" and an install that was purchased from a retailer, you were duped. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
01 Sep 2010
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#9 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Cluberti has it exactly right. Enterprise is not available for retail sale or use.
In order to sell you an installed Windows 7 copy which is legit, there has to be a COA sticker on the machine. There couldn't really be a retail OEM copy of Enterprise since as stated it is used by Universities and other large institutions for volume licensing of many copies of Windows. It can never be sold retail.
If your receipt or other sales literature verifies that the machine was sold with this phony retail Windows 7 version on it then you have proof of theft. I would visit the store with a witness and politely ask them what they intend to do about it. Act as though you are embarassed on their behalf and dont' want to hurt their reputation, just get a legit retail version installed. If they offer to give you a retail copy, I would take it since we can most likely help you install it better than thieves would.
If they won't cooperate then file a theft complaint with the local police. If they are too busy to deal with it go to your local prosecuting attorney. If you need MS's help to verfy any of this to authorities or further pursue the merchant, call or email their Customer Service. | My System Specs | | |
01 Sep 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
Thats what I was thinking, thats why I asked if it was Enterprise or Ultimate, and if he got a COA sticker with it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 even the store bought sealed windows 7's are not genuine? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:20 PM. | |