| Windows 7: Is it ok not to update Windows? |
15 Jan 2011
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#11 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
Its not intrusive either.
By default its @ 3am I think, and thats just once a month -- unless something critical can not wait & absolutely needs immediate attention.
This is why I just leave mine on Auto for Important only. Everything deemed critical is automatically installed when released.
Then I look through Recommended and optional and install the ones I want/need. (Although I usually just install everything)
I agree with everyone else as well. Unless the machine is never online, Always let Windows update.
The amount of space the updates take is minimal. | My System Specs |
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15 Jan 2011
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#12 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |
I have a simple principle in this matter. I trust the makers of an OS to know what they are doing. Whether Windows, a Linux distro or Mac, I let them install any updates automatically when possible. In Windows for instance, most updates are because Microsoft has found a vulnerability or a bug and releases an update to patch that. I feel not updating would be irresponsible behavior from me, not taking care of my property, my computer.
Maybe not a good metaphor but anyway, think this: You install a well known, working AV application with todays virus and malware definitions. Should you then leave it as it was when installed, no longer update definitions, trusting that the old virus definitions can take care of the future viruses, too? Windows Update works according to this same principle; your Windows when installed was / is as safe and OK as was known to Microsoft when they released the version you installed. When new threats, vulnerabilities, bugs and so on are found, they are patched with an update.
Of course it's up to you to decide what to do with your computer. The above mentioned is only my personal opinion.
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15 Jan 2011
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#13 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Kari, there are exceptions. I recently got an update for my GPU which screwed things up. Before I really realized it, I had no suitable restore point left and uninstalling did not help either. But fortunately I had my trusted images that bailed me out.
And then there were also cases where updates were immediately known as buggy - even by MS. I remember one from a couple of years ago in Vista that did not even have an uninstaller - too bad for those that had neither restore points nor images. And that are most of the users, I think. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
15 Jan 2011
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#14 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Kari, there are exceptions. I recently got an update for my GPU which screwed things up. Before I really realized it, I had no suitable restore point left and uninstalling did not help either. But fortunately I had my trusted images that bailed me out. To be fair, a video driver would NOT be listed as critical, but rather an optional component. I never install driver updates and such from Windows update...unless they are marked as critical. 
Quote: Originally Posted by whs And then there were also cases where updates were immediately known as buggy - even by MS. I remember one from a couple of years ago in Vista that did not even have an uninstaller - too bad for those that had neither restore points nor images. And that are most of the users, I think. These do happen from time to time. Which is why I usually don't immediately install them, but rather hold off just a couple of days. However, these disasterous updates are usually few and far between. Over 98% of them I think have no real problems whatsoever. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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15 Jan 2011
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#15 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1
While all updates may not be necessary, it might be more work and effort to read through them all and determine which ones you "really" need. That time and effort might not be worth the few KB's on the hard drive that are consumed. Plus, it's better to be safe than sorry in my opinion.
So for example, those updates like USB camera devices that I do not have, or SD cards over 32GB that will blah blah unless.... or the 50+ language packs for ultimate users...
Or video card WHQL drivers that I have intentionally bypassed for valid reasons, or the 'Cumulative Media Centre' updates for a Media Centre I have long since disabled....
Or the Windows Live 2011 essentials that I also don't need or want et cetera.
The time and effort (ie a few seconds to read the description) is worth it.
As also mentioned, there are the occasional KB's that cause more harm than good.
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15 Jan 2011
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#16 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Massachusetts |
Bloating is not really an issue here since most security patches replace plus like already mentioned: hard drive space is cheap these days...MUCH cheaper than the time you will waste when your computer is overrun with nasties just because you didn't run those security upgrades
IMHO not a good idea
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15 Jan 2011
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#17 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Southern Ohio |
True, we all have a different method of what is considered the best way to install updates, be it all automatic, all manual, or a mix of the 2.
But I think we can all agree on 1 major point.
Neglecting to update at all is a very bad idea. They are important.
Even if you do not Auto updates, I think at least one should at the very least set Windows Update to:
"Do not Download but check and inform me if updates are available."
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15 Jan 2011
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#18 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate A Finnish immigrant in Leipzig, Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball so for example, those updates like usb camera devices (1) that i do not have, or sd cards (1) over 32gb that will blah blah unless.... Or the 50+ language packs for ultimate users (1, 2) ...
Or video card whql (3) drivers that i have intentionally bypassed for valid reasons, or the 'cumulative media centre' updates for a media centre i have long since disabled....
Or the windows live 2011 (1) essentials that i also don't need or want et cetera.
The time and effort (ie a few seconds to read the description) is worth it.
As also mentioned, there are the occasional kb's that cause more harm than good.
Everyone has their own routine - the manual method has personally served me well. (1) = Optional update (2) = Windows 7 is offered in 35 languages. After installation, users of Ultimate and Enterprise editions can download 34 language packs in addition to the language of original installation (3) = If not optional, at least not critical update
IMO we were talking about (automatically) installing important, critical Windows updates. Optional updates are not installed even if automatic updates is enabled.
Kari | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
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16 Jan 2011
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#19 | | |
Semantics Kari my friend, semantics
I always install the critical updates. - But I still do it manually. I personally prefer to to control my 'install/restart' rather than being 'reminded to'.
I was responding to another member of 'install all or be damned' in a subtle, yet obfuscated way.
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18 Jan 2011
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#20 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |

Quote: Originally Posted by jiewmeng I sometimes find it annoying and bloating my HDD If you truly feel this way, you'd be doing all of us tech professionals a favor by cancelling your internet service right away. People with your mindset are often the ones who's computers become part of a large botnet attack.
ALWAYS ALWAYS keep your OS updated. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS Is it ok not to update Windows? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:10 AM. | |