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Windows 7: I am utterly dissapointed with Microsoft...


27 Oct 2011   #1

W7 ULTIMATE 64b
 
 
I am utterly dissapointed with Microsoft...

Hello,
As you might not know, I am writing this from a fresh fresh install. Right now I am installing my ATI drivers from my HD5850 disc.
You might wonder, and where's the problem?.
The problem is, that the reason behind this formatting and re-install, is that Microsoft "detected" (in between quotes due to the fact that this detection, was made, ironically, 1 month after the same Microsoft "detected" my WINDOWS 7 HOME PREM LATAM OS-32 BITS as original) my software as pirate and decided to FUBAR my computer. And I mean FUBAR by the old way, unable to connect to internet, unable to make a repair, unable to system restore, hell, even trying to repair Windows from my Windows disc gave me a BSOD.
And wait, there's more, this is the second time I have to do this.

The questions are:
1-Why does Microsoft, when installing this OS, detects the key as original and genuine, and then, after circa 1 month of use, decides to throw away that decision and call my software "pirate"? Is there any posibility that this might be caused by a virus?
2-Why does Windows degenerates itself over time? I mean, at first, there are no Cold Boot BSODS (you might argue that this is due to a lot of drivers and software, but if that was the case, how come, after several restarts, the BSODS are gone? It makes no sense at all. If the problem was linked to a faulty driver/software, then the BSOD should repeat everytime I use the computer) but then, after 3-4 weeks of use, things start to go nuts: Cold Boot BSODS, programs crashing, archives dissapearing, chkdsk's being started at start without advise, etc.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot: This didn't happened with Windows XP. So its something software-related. This statement is backed up by the fact that I've ran several tests with tools such as MEMTEST,OCCT,PRIME95,ATI Stress Tool,Windows memory diagnoser and they havent found a single problem.

Thank you all for your time and cooperation. Looking forward to resolve this problem.


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27 Oct 2011   #2

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ArgentineBoy View Post
Hello,
As you might not know, I am writing this from a fresh fresh install. Right now I am installing my ATI drivers from my HD5850 disc.
You might wonder, and where's the problem?.
The problem is, that the reason behind this formatting and re-install, is that Microsoft "detected" (in between quotes due to the fact that this detection, was made, ironically, 1 month after the same Microsoft "detected" my WINDOWS 7 HOME PREM LATAM OS-32 BITS as original) my software as pirate and decided to FUBAR my computer. And I mean FUBAR by the old way, unable to connect to internet, unable to make a repair, unable to system restore, hell, even trying to repair Windows from my Windows disc gave me a BSOD.
And wait, there's more, this is the second time I have to do this.

The questions are:
1-Why does Microsoft, when installing this OS, detects the key as original and genuine, and then, after circa 1 month of use, decides to throw away that decision and call my software "pirate"? Is there any posibility that this might be caused by a virus?
2-Why does Windows degenerates itself over time? I mean, at first, there are no Cold Boot BSODS (you might argue that this is due to a lot of drivers and software, but if that was the case, how come, after several restarts, the BSODS are gone? It makes no sense at all. If the problem was linked to a faulty driver/software, then the BSOD should repeat everytime I use the computer) but then, after 3-4 weeks of use, things start to go nuts: Cold Boot BSODS, programs crashing, archives dissapearing, chkdsk's being started at start without advise, etc.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot: This didn't happened with Windows XP. So its something software-related. This statement is backed up by the fact that I've ran several tests with tools such as MEMTEST,OCCT,PRIME95,ATI Stress Tool,Windows memory diagnoser and they havent found a single problem.

Thank you all for your time and cooperation. Looking forward to resolve this problem.

1- It could be malware easily, or it could be as simple as the computer clock being off due to an old CMOS battery.

2-All OS's "denegrate?" over time. when you add applications the registry grows, the computer becomes slower, etc.

As someone who alalyses BSOD's I can tell you they are usually not repeatable. They are, after all, a combination of several different things.

It may have not happened with xp because the hardware was "BEEFY" enough to handle XP and it may not be the same for win 7.

If you want to spend the time, and it may be considerable, we can help you find and fix its causes.

Just as an fyi there is system file check that will verify (and repair) your OS.
Run a system file check to verify and repair your system files.
To do this type cmd in search, then right click to run as administrator, then
SFC /SCANNOW

Read here for more information SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

Let us know the results from the report at the end.



Let us know what you would like to do.
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27 Oct 2011   #3

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

I do think that all your symptoms are as much indicative of malware as they are of a slowly dying harddrive. Either way, blaming Microsoft seems premature in this case.
Windows installations do "degenerate" in some ways, depending on how they're used and what software is installed/used on them...but what you've experienced is outside the usual.
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28 Oct 2011   #4

W7 ULTIMATE 64b
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ArgentineBoy View Post
Hello,
As you might not know, I am writing this from a fresh fresh install. Right now I am installing my ATI drivers from my HD5850 disc.
You might wonder, and where's the problem?.
The problem is, that the reason behind this formatting and re-install, is that Microsoft "detected" (in between quotes due to the fact that this detection, was made, ironically, 1 month after the same Microsoft "detected" my WINDOWS 7 HOME PREM LATAM OS-32 BITS as original) my software as pirate and decided to FUBAR my computer. And I mean FUBAR by the old way, unable to connect to internet, unable to make a repair, unable to system restore, hell, even trying to repair Windows from my Windows disc gave me a BSOD.
And wait, there's more, this is the second time I have to do this.

The questions are:
1-Why does Microsoft, when installing this OS, detects the key as original and genuine, and then, after circa 1 month of use, decides to throw away that decision and call my software "pirate"? Is there any posibility that this might be caused by a virus?
2-Why does Windows degenerates itself over time? I mean, at first, there are no Cold Boot BSODS (you might argue that this is due to a lot of drivers and software, but if that was the case, how come, after several restarts, the BSODS are gone? It makes no sense at all. If the problem was linked to a faulty driver/software, then the BSOD should repeat everytime I use the computer) but then, after 3-4 weeks of use, things start to go nuts: Cold Boot BSODS, programs crashing, archives dissapearing, chkdsk's being started at start without advise, etc.

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot: This didn't happened with Windows XP. So its something software-related. This statement is backed up by the fact that I've ran several tests with tools such as MEMTEST,OCCT,PRIME95,ATI Stress Tool,Windows memory diagnoser and they havent found a single problem.

Thank you all for your time and cooperation. Looking forward to resolve this problem.

1- It could be malware easily, or it could be as simple as the computer clock being off due to an old CMOS battery.

2-All OS's "denegrate?" over time. when you add applications the registry grows, the computer becomes slower, etc.

As someone who alalyses BSOD's I can tell you they are usually not repeatable. They are, after all, a combination of several different things.

It may have not happened with xp because the hardware was "BEEFY" enough to handle XP and it may not be the same for win 7.

If you want to spend the time, and it may be considerable, we can help you find and fix its causes.

Just as an fyi there is system file check that will verify (and repair) your OS.
Run a system file check to verify and repair your system files.
To do this type cmd in search, then right click to run as administrator, then
SFC /SCANNOW

Read here for more information SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

Let us know the results from the report at the end.



Let us know what you would like to do.
Thanks for your time and cooperation.
Im sure that my machine is capable of handling 7 very well, it gets a score of 5,9.

About the HD, as I have stated before, I have run all kinds of tests, one of those were with the tool provided by Western Digital, it didnt found any error. So HD is 100% ok.

What's more, right now, second day after fresh install, my google chrome tabs are beggining to go FUBAR, just like they did little before Microsoft detected my Windows as pirate.The only way to make them work is to hammer the F5 button

And as I write this line, my windows explorer.exe crashed and had to restart again. Remember, this the first time I start the machine on the day (5pm-technically, a cold boot)

About the SFC /scannow. There is something I would like to add. When the WINDOWS IS PIRATE thing popped up besides the screen going black, I tried running a SFC /scannow, and guess what, it BSOD just after 8%-9%....every time I tried doing it...

Wow, OMFG, now, tried running sfc /scannow....look at picture. There is a pending System Reparation? Really? I mean....that's kinda weird...


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Corazon View Post
I do think that all your symptoms are as much indicative of malware as they are of a slowly dying harddrive. Either way, blaming Microsoft seems premature in this case.
Windows installations do "degenerate" in some ways, depending on how they're used and what software is installed/used on them...but what you've experienced is outside the usual.
Thing is, that It doesnt make any sense at all, it happened with my previous HD, it happens with this HD.
Besides, how can you explain, that after several restarts in the same day, the machine starts to work well? I mean:
Cold boot: BSOD or things are just FUBAR.
First Restart:BSOD is gone but things are still FUBAR
Second restart:FUBAR is almost gone.
Third Restart:It works as it should work.

EDIT: Great, again:ZOMFG, this time I noticed I had to download updates, so I downloaded them, then I restarted in order to install them, guess what, it got stuck at update 6 of 23....had to manually restart the machine.....

EDIT2: So...What the heck is going on here? Take a look at second picture...file also uploaded


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28 Oct 2011   #5

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Could be bad ram, poorly seated ram or cards (video card for example). It could be a motherboard going bad, any one of the chips or caps could be suspect. Even a power supply going bad. (Had 2-3 of those)

When completely random things like this happen, it is very often bad hardware. Finding it can take some time... And in the case of a bad motherboard (had two in my life) it's always the LAST thing you check due to it being the hardest to "swap"
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28 Oct 2011   #6

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult. x64 Windows 8.1 x64
 
 

Hi,

Can I just clarify something? Your system specs say you are using Ultimate x64, yet in your first post you refer to Home Premium x86? Which is it?

Please run this tool, and post the results here in your reply:

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012

Regards,
Golden
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28 Oct 2011   #7

W7 ULTIMATE 64b
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Hi,

Can I just clarify something? Your system specs say you are using Ultimate x64, yet in your first post you refer to Home Premium x86? Which is it?

Please run this tool, and post the results here in your reply:

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012

Regards,
Golden
ugh, Im gonna get ultra flamed for this, but anyway, honesty is something which you dont see everyday.
Before we installed this original genuine Windows 7 home premium 32 bits copy....we used to have a pirate 64 bits ultimate version.

Dont ask me why or how, the matter is that we (my father and I) decided to purchase a legal copy of Windows 7 and so we did.

Here's the report.
Code:
Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
-----------------------------------------
Windows Validation Data-->
 
Validation Code: 0
Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-H87PP-QX8MT-3VXQF
Windows Product Key Hash: VLA17aFyLTzKxbX9dpWsoKliXtY=
Windows Product ID: 00359-OEM-8783736-09538
Windows Product ID Type: 3
Windows License Type: OEM System Builder
Windows OS version: 6.1.7600.2.00010300.0.0.003
ID: {4F80CDEF-4401-4862-98AA-338D4B8720C5}(1)
Is Admin: Yes
TestCab: 0x0
LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Product Name: Windows 7 Home Premium
Architecture: 0x00000000
Build lab: 7600.win7_gdr.110622-1503
TTS Error: 
Validation Diagnostic: 
Resolution Status: N/A
 
Vista WgaER Data-->
ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
 
Windows XP Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
File Exists: No
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
 
OGA Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
 
OGA Data-->
Office Status: 109 N/A
OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3
 
Browser Data-->
Proxy settings: N/A
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
Default Browser: C:\Users\GelbenHaus\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
Active scripting: Allowed
Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed
 
File Scan Data-->
 
Other data-->
Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{4F80CDEF-4401-4862-98AA-338D4B8720C5}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7600.2.00010300.0.0.003</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-3VXQF</PKey><PID>00359-OEM-8783736-09538</PID><PIDType>3</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-1430248933-3366207053-2804117431</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.</Manufacturer><Model>H55M-USB3</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Award Software International, Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>F11</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="4"/><Date>20101101000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>AAB93607018400FE</HWID><UserLCID>0C0A</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0C0A</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Hora estándar de Argentina(GMT-03:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 
 
Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002
 
Licensing Data-->
Versión del Servicio de licencias de software: 6.1.7600.16385
 
Nombre: Windows(R) 7, HomePremium edition
Descripción: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_COA_NSLP channel
Id. de activación: 586bc076-c93d-429a-afe5-a69fbc644e88
Id. de aplicación: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
PID extendido: 00359-00174-837-309538-02-3082-7600.0000-2882011
Id. de instalación: 006743151881517872904594098961332245568912734634600305
URL del certificado de procesador: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
URL del certificado de maquina: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
URL de la licencia de uso: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
URL del certificado de clave de producto: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
Clave de producto parcial: 3VXQF
Estado de la licencia: con licencia
Recuento de rearmado de Windows restante: 3
Hora de confianza: 15/10/2011 20:44:01
 
Windows Activation Technologies-->
HrOffline: 0x00000000
HrOnline: N/A
HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
Event Time Stamp: N/A
ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
HealthStatus Bitmask Output:
 
 
HWID Data-->
HWID Hash Current: NgAAAAEABAABAAEAAQACAAAAAgABAAEA6GGAXUJRdo2AlihgQsZEyBj1wo9iPZDhkuHOBHZW
 
OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
N/A
 
OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
Windows marker version: N/A
OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
BIOS Information: 
ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
APIC            GBT         GBTUACPI
FACP            GBT         GBTUACPI
HPET            GBT         GBTUACPI
MCFG            GBT         GBTUACPI
EUDS            GBT         
TAMG            GBT         GBT B0
SSDT            INTEL        PPM RCM
ALSO, ON THE HARDWARE ISSUE, MY FATHER AND I HAD DECIDED TO TAKE THE MACHINE TO OUR MOST TRUSTED AND SKILLFUL TECHNICIAN (WHERE WE ALSO BOUGHT OUR PC PARTS) 3 TIMES AND HE DIDNT DETECT ANYTHING WRONG HARDWARE-RELATED.


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28 Oct 2011   #8

W7 ULTIMATE 64b
 
 

Right now im gonna upload a photo of my DVD Case....hang on...
EDIT:Geez, I cant enter GMAIL, seems like im gonna take a while....

EDIT2:Voila!


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28 Oct 2011   #9
Microsoft MVP

 

I recommend you wipe the HD since there was some sort of crack and possibly other infection on it, then clean reinstall following these steps to get a Perfect Reinstall.




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28 Oct 2011   #10

W7 ULTIMATE 64b
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
I recommend you wipe the HD since there was some sort of crack and possibly other infection on it, then clean reinstall following these steps to get a Perfect Reinstall.


Man, what would do people like me without you !

Hope this clears the situation. Thanks for your time.

EDIT: Greg and all the others, I've just noticed THIS:

Recuento de rearmado de Windows restante: 3

That means that if I reinstall Windows 3 times again using the same cdkey, then I wont be able to reinstall anymore? Thanks for answer.
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