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Windows 7: How Windows representative check the genuineness of Windows

17 Nov 2011   #11
Ninjaboyz

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Sorry, honestly I know nothing about MSDN.. Around 5 machines, another one I confirmed being counterfeited. So what is your advice? Do I need to purchase new copy for them all? If yes how much will it be?

Bed time.. continue soon.


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17 Nov 2011   #12
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Not a problem Andy - unfortunately, there are an awful lot of Win7 installations using abused MSDN Keys out there in the wild.
Most come from accounts purchased with stolen credit cards, or otherwise fraudulently obtained - which are then attached to genuine-looking packs for whatever version of Windows the vendor wants to flog. For profit reasons they are mostly Ultimate, as the packs can't be that cheap by the time you take account of the disks, labels, paperwork, and packaging..

We've seen an awful lot of them in the WGA forums at MS.
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17 Nov 2011   #13
Ninjaboyz

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

For your information I used to repair computer before as part timer, know really little about Windows Activation..
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17 Nov 2011   #14
NoelDP

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ninjaboyz View Post
Sorry, honestly I know nothing about MSDN.. Around 5 machines, another one I confirmed being counterfeited. So what is your advice? Do I need to purchase new copy for them all? If yes how much will it be?

Bed time.. continue soon.
I know that feeling, all too well!

Depending on the machines themselves, the cost may be limited.
First look ta the affected machines - do they have any COA sticker on them at all? If not, that limits your options, as you will need Retail licenses for them before you can think about Volume Licensing.
If they have COA stickers - even for another version or edition of WIndows, then you can consider Volume Licensing. You need to talk to a specialist about that, as the cost depend on the number of licenses involved, and the delivery mechanism.

If you're restricted to Retail licenses, it depends on the work environment.
Are you using peer-to-peer networking, or Domain-based networking?
With the former, you can use Home Premium or even Home Basic for most things.
With Domain networking you have to use Pro or Ultimate. There's no real benefit to Ultimate over Pro, unless you need BitLocker.

One case where you would be better-advised to use Pro over a Home Premium/Basic install would be if you needed to run XP Mode to enable use of software that doesn't run in Win 7.

As far as cost is concerend, check your local reputable stores (I know nothing about them on the Malay Peninsular, unsurprisingly) for details. DON'T be tempted to buy OEM to reduce costs - those licenses will die with the machine, even if it's only two seconds after activation. Retail licenses are transferable to new machines.

Hope that helps - if you need more, you should probably talk direct to MS Volume Sales people (the minimum number of comuters to be eligible for Volume licenses is 5), and discuss with them your needs now and in the future. If you tell me whereabouts you are, then I can probably find a local number for you to phone.
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17 Nov 2011   #15
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 


Usually corperations use volumn licensing for multiple machines. these would be MSDN keys as well. so the previous admin might have set this up:

Microsoft Volume Licensing - Manage My Agreements (VLSC)

Microsoft should be able to help you with finding out whether or not your company has this or not.

oops didnt read far enough down. Great advice Noel
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
Hope that helps - if you need more, you should probably talk direct to MS Volume Sales people (the minimum number of comuters to be eligible for Volume licenses is 5), and discuss with them your needs now and in the future. If you tell me whereabouts you are, then I can probably find a local number for you to phone.
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17 Nov 2011   #16
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Usually corperations use volumn licensing for multiple machines. these would be MSDN keys as well. so the previous admin might have set this up:

Microsoft Volume Licensing - Manage My Agreements (VLSC)

Microsoft should be able to help you with finding out whether or not your company has this or not.
Volume License Keys are Totally different to MSDN Keys - and are declared as such in the MGADiag report.
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17 Nov 2011   #17
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Usually corperations use volumn licensing for multiple machines. these would be MSDN keys as well. so the previous admin might have set this up:

Microsoft Volume Licensing - Manage My Agreements (VLSC)

Microsoft should be able to help you with finding out whether or not your company has this or not.
Volume License Keys are Totally different to MSDN Keys - and are declared as such in the MGADiag report.
My bad.

this is what i was thinking of.. but still my bad on tech termonology I was not thinking
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subs.../aa948862.aspx
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17 Nov 2011   #18
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Easiy done - and not at all obvious until you look at a few MGADiag reports.
Wander over to Windows 7 Genuine Advantage Validation Issues (Windows 7) Forum sometime, and you'll see what I mean
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17 Nov 2011   #19
Joan Archer

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 10 64bit
 
 

Just clicked on your link Noel and I see Carey is still around.
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17 Nov 2011   #20
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Joan Archer View Post
Just clicked on your link Noel and I see Carey is still around.
Unfortunately, yes
Every now and then I try and take him down a peg or two - but it's like throwing marshmallows at an elephant
90% of his posts consist of little more than a sales pitch for the MS Store - which has the world's highest prices for MS software. I wonder if he gets commission?
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