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27 Nov 2011
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#21 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
In terms of Avira and MSE, you're quite right in that you get what you pay for.
However, as the problem appears to be related to Windows Defender, I suggested trying MSE, as it will automatically disable Windows Defender.
As ever, it's up to the OP as to which possible solution is chosen. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
27 Nov 2011
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#22 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |
Avira is also suporsed to disable Defender - if it doesn't do so automatically, it's easy enough to disable it in the Services control panel, even if the option is not available in the ordinary Control panel item.
Click on Start, and type
services.msc
into the Search box -hit the Enter key.
Look for the Windows Defender entry, and double-click on it, then use the options there to set it to Manual, or Disabled. (MSE sets the service to Manual - but that may be because it uses some of the functionality) | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
27 Nov 2011
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#23 | | MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade tampa bay area, fl |
Thanks Noel, I'd prefer the Disable option be chosen. Then after stopping the service, reboot and see if that helps. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom self build - Desktop OS MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade CPU AMD Phenom II X6: Black Ed 1090T - AM3 / 3.2GHz / 8MB Motherboard Biostar TA790XE3 Memory 2 dual ch sets OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 Platinum 1333MHz 8GB total Graphics Card Onboard Sound Card Onboard 5.1 channel HD Monitor(s) Displays SyncMaster "Legal-sized" LCD (rotatable) Screen Resolution unknown (8.5"x15")? pixels are not known Keyboard Blue Star Ergonomic - ps/2 Mouse LED coorded w/v. roller wheel - ps/2 PSU Antec 900W mATX 20+4 w/6-8SATA;2MLX;4x6(+2)PCIe[p/n HCG-900] Case Mid 10-bay tower - free space design interior & well vented Cooling CPU HS cooler, 14.5" Case-sysfan1, dual sysfan2, exhaust Hard Drives HDD1: WD RE3 Enterprize [p/n: WD500ABYS-NDW]
________SATA-II (3Gb/s) 500GB/7200rpm/16MB
HDD2: Deskstar 7K1000.C [p/n: HDS721010CLA332]
________SATA-II (3Gb/s) 1TB/7200rpm/32MB Internet Speed GbLAN 10/100/1000 & WLAN - on T1 (Peer Network) Other Info Harmon-Karden speakers (L,R @ sub)
APC (Lead/Acid Batt backup UPC+Surge protector+etc)
Sony DVD SATA(300) - RW DVD/CD SATA-II(300) |
27 Nov 2011
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#24 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
It makes sense to try that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
27 Nov 2011
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#25 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
Hey!
Installed MSE, and now everything is running perfectly. I had actually tried to find a way inside Windows Defender to stop it from blocking certain programs, but couldn't locate it.
The MSE/Disable thing worked wonders.
And the tags on the KB915597 that are the two possible causes are:
1.115.2100.0
or
1.115.2351.0
Thanks alot for the help guys, you are the heroes of the internet.
I'll mark this as solved, but if anyone can come up with a proper rundown of the problem in Windows Defender, I'd love to see it and it could help other people who have the same problem.
Thanks again! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
27 Nov 2011
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#26 | | MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade tampa bay area, fl |
GREAT... but what are your plans for your other a/v software... if you uninstall it be sure to use the mfgr's uninstaller rand not the windows control panel uninstaller. unless it's too late
Mike
Mike | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom self build - Desktop OS MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade CPU AMD Phenom II X6: Black Ed 1090T - AM3 / 3.2GHz / 8MB Motherboard Biostar TA790XE3 Memory 2 dual ch sets OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 Platinum 1333MHz 8GB total Graphics Card Onboard Sound Card Onboard 5.1 channel HD Monitor(s) Displays SyncMaster "Legal-sized" LCD (rotatable) Screen Resolution unknown (8.5"x15")? pixels are not known Keyboard Blue Star Ergonomic - ps/2 Mouse LED coorded w/v. roller wheel - ps/2 PSU Antec 900W mATX 20+4 w/6-8SATA;2MLX;4x6(+2)PCIe[p/n HCG-900] Case Mid 10-bay tower - free space design interior & well vented Cooling CPU HS cooler, 14.5" Case-sysfan1, dual sysfan2, exhaust Hard Drives HDD1: WD RE3 Enterprize [p/n: WD500ABYS-NDW]
________SATA-II (3Gb/s) 500GB/7200rpm/16MB
HDD2: Deskstar 7K1000.C [p/n: HDS721010CLA332]
________SATA-II (3Gb/s) 1TB/7200rpm/32MB Internet Speed GbLAN 10/100/1000 & WLAN - on T1 (Peer Network) Other Info Harmon-Karden speakers (L,R @ sub)
APC (Lead/Acid Batt backup UPC+Surge protector+etc)
Sony DVD SATA(300) - RW DVD/CD SATA-II(300) |
27 Nov 2011
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#27 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |

Quote: Originally Posted by Hujoppi Installed MSE, and now everything is running perfectly. I had actually tried to find a way inside Windows Defender to stop it from blocking certain programs, but couldn't locate it. Chances are, that if you're on a slow or unstable connection, the next release of the update is out before you've actually downloaded the last - All Defender updates are released under the same KB number, with different versioning.
If you're bow running with MSE installed, please reset Defender to Manual, rather than Disabled. I believe that this is necessary, as MSE uses some of the other services that it activates and enables.
It's more loikely that your programs were being disabled by Avira's firewall (assuming you had the suite installed, rather than just the AV) than MSE. Did you look there? | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
27 Nov 2011
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#28 | | MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade tampa bay area, fl |
The advised "disable" was when I was explaining how to disable Defender without risk of accidently reenabling it in the future. But with the change in direction I agree that the "Manual" setting is necessary.
Mike | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom self build - Desktop OS MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade CPU AMD Phenom II X6: Black Ed 1090T - AM3 / 3.2GHz / 8MB Motherboard Biostar TA790XE3 Memory 2 dual ch sets OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 Platinum 1333MHz 8GB total Graphics Card Onboard Sound Card Onboard 5.1 channel HD Monitor(s) Displays SyncMaster "Legal-sized" LCD (rotatable) Screen Resolution unknown (8.5"x15")? pixels are not known Keyboard Blue Star Ergonomic - ps/2 Mouse LED coorded w/v. roller wheel - ps/2 PSU Antec 900W mATX 20+4 w/6-8SATA;2MLX;4x6(+2)PCIe[p/n HCG-900] Case Mid 10-bay tower - free space design interior & well vented Cooling CPU HS cooler, 14.5" Case-sysfan1, dual sysfan2, exhaust Hard Drives HDD1: WD RE3 Enterprize [p/n: WD500ABYS-NDW]
________SATA-II (3Gb/s) 500GB/7200rpm/16MB
HDD2: Deskstar 7K1000.C [p/n: HDS721010CLA332]
________SATA-II (3Gb/s) 1TB/7200rpm/32MB Internet Speed GbLAN 10/100/1000 & WLAN - on T1 (Peer Network) Other Info Harmon-Karden speakers (L,R @ sub)
APC (Lead/Acid Batt backup UPC+Surge protector+etc)
Sony DVD SATA(300) - RW DVD/CD SATA-II(300) |
27 Nov 2011
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#29 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Hujoppi Hey!
Installed MSE, and now everything is running perfectly. I had actually tried to find a way inside Windows Defender to stop it from blocking certain programs, but couldn't locate it.
The MSE/Disable thing worked wonders.
And the tags on the KB915597 that are the two possible causes are:
1.115.2100.0
or
1.115.2351.0
Thanks alot for the help guys, you are the heroes of the internet.
I'll mark this as solved, but if anyone can come up with a proper rundown of the problem in Windows Defender, I'd love to see it and it could help other people who have the same problem.
Thanks again! You're very welcome. Hujoppi. Pleased we could help. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
27 Nov 2011
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#30 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit |
Nope, I use Avast and I had it long before the problem appeared.
It was the Windows Defender, I'm positive. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Recent Windows Update Trouble - Home Premium problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:13 AM. | |