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Windows 7: Why does MS not categorize MSE definition updates as important??


09 Dec 2011   #11

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

OK, Noel. I give up. I respect your opinion, but I don't agree.

FWIW - I just ran an update check via the MSE interface & downloaded a new virus definition database, which was created - according to MS - about 9 hours prior to my update check. My previous update was downloaded around 15 hours ago. I don't have the creation date/time for that one. I am set to receive updates automatically, but I will be manually checking for MSE updates more often now. Otherwise, I would not have known of the existence of the latest virus definitions.

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09 Dec 2011   #12

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Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TBoyd View Post
OK, Noel. I give up. I respect your opinion, but I don't agree.
That's your right
It *is* only a matter of opinion, after all
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09 Dec 2011   #13

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1
 
 

Hello - new user here.
You have a great forum.

FYI - You can set up a scheduled task to automatically update MSE virus definitions.
I have mine set up to check for new definitions every 4 hours.
The down side (to me) is there are a lot of entries in the Windows Update history.
Usually 3 per day for these updates.
I normally want to be notified of new Windows updates available.
Except these - I want these updates applied without me doing anything manual.

It can be done with a batch file, or directly running the Update program.

I can post details, batch file, etc. if that's ok and anyone wants it.
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09 Dec 2011   #14

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus View Post
Hello - new user here.
You have a great forum.

FYI - You can set up a scheduled task to automatically update MSE virus definitions.
I have mine set up to check for new definitions every 4 hours.
The down side (to me) is there are a lot of entries in the Windows Update history.
Usually 3 per day for these updates.
I normally want to be notified of new Windows updates available.
Except these - I want these updates applied without me doing anything manual.

It can be done with a batch file, or directly running the Update program.

I can post details, batch file, etc. if that's ok and anyone wants it.
Welcome!

That's an idea, David! Please post.
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09 Dec 2011   #15

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1
 
 

Hello TBoyd and thanks for the welcome.
Below is my "basic" BAT file to update MSE definitions.
This BAT file MUST be run with "Run As Administrator".

-- --------------------------------------------------------
:: MSEUpdate.bat

@echo off
cd "c:\Program files\Microsoft Security Client\Antimalware"
MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate
:: pause
-- ---------------------------------------------------------

David

Edit 05/07/2012
This BAT file works with MSE V2
For MSE V4 use the BAT file later in this thread (Post #20)
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10 Dec 2011   #16

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Thanks, David. I must confess that I have never created a batch file & set up a schedule for it. Your batch file works fine. It took me some time setting up a scheduled task for it to run every 4 hours via the command prompt, as I had never done it before.

The Win Task Scheduler won't let you set up a task to run more often than one day intervals, so scheduling the batch file to run in hour or minute increments has to be done via DOS commands.

Edit - The Task Scheduler WILL enable you to set up a task on hourly increments. MS makes you dig for the option!
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10 Dec 2011   #17

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1
 
 

TBoyd, I never set up scheduled task with the command prompt, so I can't help with that.

In the Windows Task Scheduler, go to the "Triggers" tab.
Under the "Advanced" section, check the "Repeat Task Every:" check-box.
This enables the drop down list.
You can type in "4 hours" (or whatever you want) into the list.

For me, this is a "Daily" task, that Recurs every 1 day, and Repeats every 4 hours.
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10 Dec 2011   #18

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Creating the task from the elevated command prompt worked well for me - after doing some research on the subject. I entered the following in the elevated command prompt:

schtasks /create /sc minute /mo 240 /tn "MSE Update" /tr /c:\MSEupdate.bat

This set up my MSEupdate.bat file - which I copied from your post & pasted in notepad & saved in c:\ as "MSEupdate.bat". The "sc minute /mo 240" entry sets it to run every 240 minutes - or 4 hours.

I checked out your method via Task Scheduler & never found an "Advanced" section. I did find that - in the "Triggers" tab area - there is an "edit" button that enables me to set up the task on an hourly basis. So a task can be set up - or edited - to run in hour increments via the task scheduler.

I don't know why MS did not provide an "Hourly" check box in Task Scheduler on the "Create Basic Task Wizard". It leads one to believe that it can't be set up to run more frequently than daily increments.

Anyway - This is the answer to my concern about MSE updates being "tardy"

Problem solved Thanks, David!
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11 Dec 2011   #19

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1
 
 

Your welcome TBoyd, and glad this worked for you.
Thanks to the others that "Reputation commented" for this...

David
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07 May 2012   #20

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1
 
 

With the recent MSE V4 version update, the folder for MpCmdRun.exe has changed.
The BAT file in POST #15 needs to be changed to work with MSE V4.
I'm looking at a Windows 7 x64 install, but i expect Windows 7 32 bit is the same...

The old folder was "c:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Client\Antimalware"
The new folder is "c:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Client"

The new BAT file for V4 is:

-- --------------------------------------------------------
:: MSEUpdate.bat

@echo off
cd "c:\Program files\Microsoft Security Client"
MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate
:: pause
-- ---------------------------------------------------------

Note:
If you have any issues you can remove the "::" in the pause statement.
This will uncomment the pause, and the CMD window will stay open so you can check for any errors.
Just hit enter in the CMD window to close it...
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