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22 Feb 2012   #11
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by egozi44 View Post
Layback Bear + logicearth:
i did said that my english not that good didn't i? XD
and if i don't said it in this post then you can guess it from the way i wrote =)
That doesn't mean you do not know how to use the "Enter" key on your keyboard. Spacing out your words and sentences when using a language that is not your primary is important. Its hard enough to read and understand you without a wall of text.

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...but most people talk like this in the net, mostly in chats though...
I can understand those that do not speak the language fluently (English in this case), but if they can speak the language fluently and they talk like you. I would call them an idiot, to be frank. But...then again I didn't spend all those years in school to butcher my words and talk like a six year old. Nor do I want to talk to someone who does talk like a 6 year old (unless they actually are 6) on a technical (where some level of intelligence is assumed) forum like this.

That is my opinion on the matter.


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22 Feb 2012   #12
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Joan Archer View Post
I don't understand though why you feel the need to keep formatting the system, unless you are deliberately testing the machine by installing stuff that trashes it.

I totally agree with what you say.
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23 Feb 2012   #13
OldMX

Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
 
 

egozi44, perhaps its not the update but a flawed videocard driver? I know some nvidia and amd releases cause black screens or high temps on certain scenarios.
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23 Feb 2012   #14
egozi44

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by OldMX View Post
egozi44, perhaps its not the update but a flawed videocard driver? I know some nvidia and amd releases cause black screens or high temps on certain scenarios.
thank for the reply OldMX

however it 100% not driver issue (i did mention that i tested the issue on several GPUs and 3 different computers ain't i?), i'm also aware of nvidia problematic drivers, and since i had the 295 gtx which is intricate and problematic card that Nvidia don't seem to be so proud about... I got allmost any tiny and rare issue that people with different cards never heard of~

all thanks to it xD.

after i formatted 2 pcs that their system work just fine before (i happened to format my father's pc and my brother's laptop last month) and installed all the win7 updates, i notices that they had the same issue too,my guess is that it simply some update that recently (and secretly) was re-released by MS and start to cause the issue, people who formatted their pc before half year ago don't get this issue, But people who just formatted their pc last week or month may notice it right away : (

also i just can't ignore update ‏KB2607576 which seem to cause alot of other issues, maybe it was the culprit that cause the leak, even after it been deleted.

any idea how i can determine what the update that cause me this issue?
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23 Feb 2012   #15
egozi44

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64 bit
 
 

logicearth~ i agree with you, frankly i was a bit sleepy when i worte this reply and was too lazy to go through it again ,

However you forgot one thing... it was just mere reply that we talking here about (well... actually it was two~) And not the whole thread, if all of my replys was like that or if it was on the very first post (which is usually the most import one in the thread) i was taking it a bit more seriously,

But because it just a mere reply that don't seem to help anyone i don't saw it as something too serious, especially not something that need to make fuss out of it.
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IggyAZ~
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I totally agree with what you say.
i agree with you too =D
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24 Feb 2012   #16
niemiro

Vista Home Premium x86 SP2
 
 

You seem to have a huge number of problems with Windows Update. Only the most tiny fraction of the huge Windows 7 userbase have problems with even 1 Windows Update. You just blow probability out of the water. Either you are that one case who gets hit by all the problems, or some of these problems are not caused by Windows Update.

Additionally, many of these problems are not classic Windows Update problems. For example, that black screen could be caused by so very many things. I personally believe that at least some of these issues are not caused by Windows Update at all, and maybe a few are conflicting with something else on or about your computer, although quite how I do not know. Either way, I think that blacklisting these updates will only cause other users greater problems.

Richard
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24 Feb 2012   #17
OldMX

Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
 
 

egozi44 i performed 3 windows installations on 3 different computers for a customer's office, lemme sho the list of updates installed by windows:

Code:
                                  [01]: KB982861
                                           [02]: 982861
                                           [03]: KB971033
                                           [04]: KB2425227
                                           [05]: KB2479943
                                           [06]: KB2484033
                                           [07]: KB2488113
                                           [08]: KB2491683
                                           [09]: KB2492386
                                           [10]: KB2505438
                                           [11]: KB2506014
                                           [12]: KB2506212
                                           [13]: KB2506928
                                           [14]: KB2507618
                                           [15]: KB2509553
                                           [16]: KB2510531
                                           [17]: KB2511250
                                           [18]: KB2511455
                                           [19]: KB2515325
                                           [20]: KB2518869
                                           [21]: KB2522422
                                           [22]: KB2529073
                                           [23]: KB2532531
                                           [24]: KB2533552
                                           [25]: KB2534111
                                           [26]: KB2536275
                                           [27]: KB2536276
                                           [28]: KB2541014
                                           [29]: KB2544893
                                           [30]: KB2545698
                                           [31]: KB2547666
                                           [32]: KB2552343
                                           [33]: KB2556532
                                           [34]: KB2560656
                                           [35]: KB2563227
                                           [36]: KB2564958
                                           [37]: KB2567680
                                           [38]: KB2570947
                                           [39]: KB2572077
                                           [40]: KB2579686
                                           [41]: KB2584146
                                           [42]: KB2585542
                                           [43]: KB2588516
                                           [44]: KB2603229
                                           [45]: KB2618451
                                           [46]: KB2619339
                                           [47]: KB2620704
                                           [48]: KB2620712
                                           [49]: KB2631813
                                           [50]: KB2633873
                                           [51]: KB2633952
                                           [52]: KB2640148
                                           [53]: KB2641690
                                           [54]: KB2644615
                                           [55]: KB2645640
                                           [56]: KB2647516
                                           [57]: KB2654428
                                           [58]: KB2656356
                                           [59]: KB2660075
                                           [60]: KB2660465
                                           [61]: KB976902
                                           [62]: KB982018
The offending ‏KB2607576 update did not show on any of the computers, I even checked the computers at my place (4 pc) and did not show there either.

I used a Windows 7 x64 with SP1 retail dvd converted to usb and removed the ei.cfg file to install any of the Windows versions available from Basic to Ultimate, and all installations were clean, removing partitions and recreating them on windows setup if that is relevant.
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25 Feb 2012   #18
egozi44

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64 bit
 
 

Richard- it seem like i don't express myself right on post 1, when i meant to black screens for 1 sec i meant that this update cause my monitor to enter power save mode for 1 sec, it also gave me black desktop for several seconds Till i deleted it.

Btw did you read all of my posts? (on this thread ofc)

cause i remember that i did mention:

1. that i tested this update on 3 different pcs (on both 32 and 64 bit)

2. that these pcs was just formatted and only had all win7's updates installed aside from ‏KB2607576, and when i tried ‏KB2607576 after that on all the three of them they got the same issue, Mean that i don't was the only one who got this issue, Also if you saw the link that i provide in my first post you probably notice that other people had the same issue too.

Just to make something clear, i may not be a computer expert But i definitely not a noob, i know that black screens can happen from alot of reasons, from software to hardware,
i know how to keep my system stable and safe most of the times from virus (i actually never had virus since 2005, though i know that some of them can hide on the user system without being notice),
i know how to build a pc (i build my gears more then once and Never had issue),
when something is wrong with my pc i usually able to notice it right away,
And i don't just blame stuff (Updates, in that case) without to test them properly before.

i know that you just trying to help and don't have any ill intentions, However just keep telling me that i'm the one that cause my own issues just because they never happened to you not mean that you right.

one of the things that i learned in my life was that people who don't got issues tend to ignore the option that issues can even exist.
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OldMX- thanks for your help =)

though it really strange... i really want to think that MC take this update down temporary for repair, But i still able to see it on my list even after i refreshed it =\

what Window's version you installed on your pc? (Ultimate i assume?)
and did you installed all the WIN7 updates? cause this update is on the optional updates list
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25 Feb 2012   #19
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by egozi44 View Post
that these pcs was just formatted and only had all win7's updates installed aside from ‏KB2607576, and when i tried ‏KB2607576 after that on all the three of them they got the same issue, Mean that i don't was the only one who got this issue
Hi,

What are you using to perform the installation? A retail Windows 7 DVD, or downloaded Windows 7 ISO burnt to a DVD or USB?

Regards,
Golden
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26 Feb 2012   #20
OldMX

Microsoft Windows 10 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by egozi44 View Post
what Window's version you installed on your pc? (Ultimate i assume?) and did you installed all the WIN7 updates? cause this update is on the optional updates list
Most of the installs i do are Home Premium using a retail disk with service pack 1 already on it, and rarely install ultimate, but checked several windows update logs and the hotfix is not listed anywhere. The updates I apply are all (criticals, importants, recommended) minus the MS updates for office.
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