| Windows 7: Bought a used laptop, is my Windows 7 Genuine? |
15 May 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 |
Bought a used laptop, is my Windows 7 Genuine? Hi.
I bought a used laptop via craigslist about 2 months ago. Its a Dell Latitude E6400. Anyways, the guy I bought it from had clean installed Windows 7 Ultimate on it, however, he gave me a selfburnt DVD and a hand written product key. This looked suspicious to me but he explained that he lost the Windows box while moving. He showed me that the windows was activated and all, and it being a good deal.. I took it
I have been using it for the past 2 months and no problems yet. Now I want to give this Laptop to my parents who live in another city and are not at all tech savvy, so I don't want that one day they call me up to tell me the Windows showing that it is not genuine. So can you guys tell if this is a genuine copy? If not, I have the OEM Vista that came with it and a Vista product key sticker behind the battery, and I can install that. But I don't want the hassle if Windows 7 is genuine.
Also what does the " Remaining Windows rearm count: 4"mean? Code: Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
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Windows Validation Data-->
Validation Code: 0
Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-X92GV-V7DCV-P4K27
Windows Product Key Hash: aU2z1/fnhnLHmhBm699qYZT2E6s=
Windows Product ID: 00426-OEM-8992662-00400
Windows Product ID Type: 2
Windows License Type: OEM SLP
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001
ID: {84F88211-79C9-42BC-9434-EBA15109CC7A}(1)
Is Admin: Yes
TestCab: 0x0
LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
Architecture: 0x00000009
Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.120330-1504
TTS Error:
Validation Diagnostic:
Resolution Status: N/A
Vista WgaER Data-->
ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Windows XP Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
File Exists: No
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGA Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGA Data-->
Office Status: 109 N/A
OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3
Browser Data-->
Proxy settings: N/A
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
Default Browser: D:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
Active scripting: Allowed
Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed
File Scan Data-->
Other data-->
Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{84F88211-79C9-42BC-9434-EBA15109CC7A}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-P4K27</PKey><PID>00426-OEM-8992662-00400</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-2443581295-1360942870-2095706115</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>Latitude E6400 </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>A31</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="4"/><Date>20111207000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>F7423A07018400F8</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Central Standard Time(GMT-06:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL </OEMID><OEMTableID>M09 </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>
Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002
Licensing Data-->
Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514
Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_SLP channel
Activation ID: 7cfd4696-69a9-4af7-af36-ff3d12b6b6c8
Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
Extended PID: 00426-00178-926-600400-02-1033-7600.0000-1362012
Installation ID: 003816724413193596775866582473628646165030141875619474
Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
Partial Product Key: P4K27
License Status: Licensed
Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
Trusted time: 15-May-12 9:03:57 PM
Windows Activation Technologies-->
HrOffline: 0x00000000
HrOnline: 0x00000000
HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
Event Time Stamp: 5:15:2012 18:59
ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
HealthStatus Bitmask Output:
HWID Data-->
HWID Hash Current: LgAAAAEAAgABAAEAAAABAAAAAgABAAEA6GHa2t3x5m50UQIibMMW7pwuwhpGyg==
OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
N/A
OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
Windows marker version: 0x20001
OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
BIOS Information:
ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
APIC DELL M09
FACP DELL M09
HPET DELL M09
MCFG DELL M09
____ DELL M09
ASF! DELL M09
TCPA
SLIC DELL M09
SSDT PmRef CpuPm | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Latitude E6400 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8400 2.26GHz Motherboard Intel PM45 Express Memory 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 333MHz Graphics Card 256MB DDR2 NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160M Sound Card IDT Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 14.1" WXGA+ LED Display Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Backlit PSU 9-cell 84Whr battery Case Black Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD +
250GB Western Digital Scorpio Black 7200RPM Internet Speed 3mbps |
15 May 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
First the rearm count in the registry shows if the 7 installation wasn't already activated you could extend the trial period. Activation Trial Period - Extend Up to 120 Days
If you have checked for Windows updates during the last two months and they installed witout any program or prompting for the WGA the original disk the previous owner had was the genuine while the other... is considered "casual copying".(not the best situation for you) You may want to consider buying your own disk as far as that is concerned.
To save on price you can opt for an upgrade disk of the same edition since you are planning to pass the pc along. Refer to Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
16 May 2012
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#3 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |

Quote: Originally Posted by d0m0 Hi. Code: Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
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Windows Validation Data-->
Validation Code: 0
Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-X92GV-V7DCV-P4K27
Windows Product Key Hash: aU2z1/fnhnLHmhBm699qYZT2E6s=
Windows Product ID: 00426-OEM-8992662-00400
Windows Product ID Type: 2
Windows License Type: OEM SLP
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001
Other data-->
SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>Latitude E6400 </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>A31</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="4"/><Date>20111207000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS
Licensing Data-->
Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514
Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_SLP channel
Partial Product Key: P4K27
License Status: Licensed
Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
Trusted time: 15-May-12 9:03:57 PM
OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
Windows marker version: 0x20001 Is there a COA sticker for WIndows Ultimate on the case?
If not, then your installation is non-genuine - mo matter what else is present.
The disk can easily be explained as being a set burned from the machine's options when new - providing hte original installation was genuine. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
16 May 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
That would be using the recovery disk creation utility either prepackaged or downloaded from the Dell support site as many OEMs are now offering since they are no longer providing recovery media on new pcs. The other thing to know is which edition of Vista as well as 32bit or 64bit came preinstalled since 7 wasn't the original OS.
This is where the casual copying from the actual disk disqualifies the present disk you received since the first owner had kept the original media. It was valid for the previous owner having purchased the 7 edition but unfortunately the original disk wasn't included with the sale of the Dell to you. Now you will need your own product key for 7 to be legit. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
16 May 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
If the first part of the key is 342DG-6YJR8, then you definitely don't have a genuine key. Download a key finder and check the entire key by googling it (I prefer Magical Jelly Bean keyfinder - free and works great). If even one instance pops up of that key, you aren't running a legal copy. Based on the hits when searching for the section of the key in your original post, I'm guessing it is a phony, but I could be wrong. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 15 L502x OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7-2670QM Memory 8GB DDR3 PC3-10600 Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Hard Drives 1TB 5400RPM Seagate |
16 May 2012
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#6 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |

Quote: Originally Posted by kegobeer If the first part of the key is 342DG-6YJR8, then you definitely don't have a genuine key. Download a key finder and check the entire key by googling it (I prefer Magical Jelly Bean keyfinder - free and works great). If even one instance pops up of that key, you aren't running a legal copy. Based on the hits when searching for the section of the key in your original post, I'm guessing it is a phony, but I could be wrong. Here's where people go wrong with reading MGADiag reports.
The Key is genuine - for a Dell machine with a Win 7 Ultimate COA sticker on it.
on ANY other machine it's a counterfeit, or at least badly-installed.
The question is not whether the Key is genuine or not - it's whether the installation is genuine.
The only way to find that out is to look at the COA sticker.
If that states Windows 7 Ultimate, Dell then all is well - anything else, and it's a counterfeit. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
16 May 2012
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#7 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |

Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk That would be using the recovery disk creation utility either prepackaged or downloaded from the Dell support site as many OEMs are now offering since they are no longer providing recovery media on new pcs. The other thing to know is which edition of Vista as well as 32bit or 64bit came preinstalled since 7 wasn't the original OS.
This is where the casual copying from the actual disk disqualifies the present disk you received since the first owner had kept the original media. It was valid for the previous owner having purchased the 7 edition but unfortunately the original disk wasn't included with the sale of the Dell to you. Now you will need your own product key for 7 to be legit. There are very limited circumstances under which it is possible to download any WIndows operating sstem from anywhere other than Digital River - and Recovery disks is not one of them, so far as I am aware.
What makes you think the original OS was not Windows 7? - everything inthe report indicates that is was.
You second paragraph doesn't make sense. In practice the license for an OEM system lies with the machine - not the owner, and not the disks. You can reinstall the OS with either the proper recovery disks (either from the recovery partition or acquired at time of purchase of the machine or later), or with a Retail or OEM System Builder OS disk - so long as the COA Key on the machine is used.
Unless the COA sticker is destroyed, or the COA Key blocked for some reason there is NEVER any need to puchase a new licnese for the original OS.
Last edited by NoelDP; 16 May 2012 at 07:12 PM..
Reason: formatting
| My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
16 May 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Allow me to clarify. If his entire key is listed on multiple warez websites, that means it's a) being used against the EULA (illegal) and is b) most likely a volume key. Since his computer did not come with Windows 7, it would have to be using either an OEM or retail key (requiring a COA), neither of which would be used on a warez website. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 15 L502x OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7-2670QM Memory 8GB DDR3 PC3-10600 Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Hard Drives 1TB 5400RPM Seagate |
16 May 2012
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#9 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |

Quote: Originally Posted by kegobeer Allow me to clarify. If his entire key is listed on multiple warez websites, that means it's a) being used against the EULA (illegal) and is b) most likely a volume key. Since his computer did not come with Windows 7, it would have to be using either an OEM or retail key (requiring a COA), neither of which would be used on a warez website. Sorry - that it totally incorrect.
ALL OEM_SLP Keys are by design blocked from activation at MS's servers, because they are supposed to self-activate on the machine itself, using the SLIC table in the BIOS and certificates in the OS.
They are perfectly valid Keys - despite being published all over the internet - in the same way that the KMS Client Keys are valid despite being published in at least 4 places on MS's own website.
It is NOT against the EULA. An OEM_SLP Key s NOT a Volume Key.
If any other Key type ( OEM_COA_SLP, OEM_COA_SLP, OEM_COA_NSLP,Retail, MAK) is published, it becomes blocked by MS servers eventually and will also be blocked for validation. It doesn't matter who knows what the OEM_SLP Keys are, unless they also have the relevant other parts required for activation.
and again - what indication can you see that the machine did not come with Win 7 installed?
Last edited by NoelDP; 16 May 2012 at 07:40 PM..
Reason: include question
| My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
16 May 2012
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#10 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |

Quote: Originally Posted by d0m0 I have the OEM Vista that came with it and a Vista product key sticker behind the battery, and I can install that. But I don't want the hassle if Windows 7 is genuine. d0m0
Please confirm/deny the following.
1) the machine has a COA sticker either on the case, or inside the battery compartment
2) Said COA sticker states Windows 7 Ultimate
3) Said sticker states Vista (what edition??), and the Key is legible
4) You have the Recovery disk for Vista
5) The Product Key for Win7you were given agrees with the one in the report (at least the last three groups, anyhow) | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
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