| Windows 7: Problem with validation |
06 Jun 2012
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#1 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Problem with validation Have posted before re an old machine that I have installed my friends Vista onto and all had gone well - updates service pack 2 et etc until today when it pops up a message that it is not a genuine OS.
Now I know it is as it was originally on another machine of hers that I put 7 on. This machine I wanted to give to her daughter to stop her mucking up the one with 7 as ha happened i the past.
I contacted Microsoft and to cut a long story short the tech told me the was no security on the machine - Comodo is and he suggested I put MSE on it - and that there were many reg errors. He offered to fix these for me and I thought great until he announced that it was going to cost $149 to do it plus an ongoing fee to keep the machine going.
Now I am hopping mad not because I am trying to get it on this other machine so much that the OS was paid for and what would have happened if the HDD died and it needed reinstalling on a new one?
In any case I need to know if there are any reliable and safe reg cleaners or rectifiers out here that I can use.
The install took me a good two days to do and if this is how M$ treat customers then I have a good mind to install Unbuntu or Linux Mint on the machine and they can have their precious Vista back
Sorry for the rant but I have had it with this mob after all the money I have spent with them | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
08 Jun 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
John if the Vista came installed on the 1st machine, it is likely an OEM version so it is forever tied to that machine. Also if it was a purchased OEM it would be tied to the first machine it's installed on too.
People buy OEM since they are $100 or so cheaper than a retail version. OEM has no MS support either. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
08 Jun 2012
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#3 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |
To properly analyse and solve problems with Activation and Validation, we need to see a full copy of the report produced by the MGADiag tool
(download and save to desktop - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012 )
Once saved, run the tool.
Click on the Continue button, which will produce the report.
To copy the report to your response, click on the Copy button in the tool (ignore any error messages at this point), and then paste (using either r-click/Paste, or Ctrl+V ) into your response.
- **in your own thread**, please
Please also state the Version and Edition of Windows quoted on your COA sticker (if you have one) on the case of your machine (or inside the battery compartment), but do NOT quote the Key on the sticker! How to Tell
Note that OEM Licenses cannot be moved between machines - and can only be used on changed motherboards in cases of warrnty replacement. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
08 Jun 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
NoelDP, what did you mean **in your own thread**, please?
I was replying to the OP which you partially restated in your response. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
08 Jun 2012
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#5 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |
That's a rather hopeful plea to others who come along later to create their own thread - this one is ICit2lol's , so he/she can post their reponse here without me complaining
Validation/Activation threads can get complex enough without having to try and deal with more than one case in a thread at a time. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
08 Jun 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Ahh, thread hi-jacking is kind of too common. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
08 Jun 2012
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#7 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Ok the disk looks like it might be an OEM as the wording on it is the same as my own 7 OEM disks (licenced to be used with new machine) the original the builders of the original machine gave the owner the whole lot that was put on the machine the Vista disk. Asus drivers and utilities etc.
On first sight I took it to be a non OEM.
So perhaps this is where it is all falling apart. My beef is that if for instance the old machine and HDD (which the HDD did) - died then how would or could you put another drive in and reinstall?? I just feel that she paid for it and therefore should be able to use it in another machine and HDD.
It just seems to be a bit unsympathetic on the part of M$ and you might as well go burn the $100 out in the back yard..
I did in fact put another new drive in for her and an OEM 7 which as you might agree is a far better option. This other machine was to keep her daughter out of her mother's machine.
Oh well if they want to be that pedantic I can always put Ubuntu on it for her so she can get on with her studies. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK |
09 Jun 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Pro 64 SP1 East Bay Area, CA |
You can replace a HDD and still use the license, but it is forever tied to that mobo it was originally installed on.
Noel can give you the exact details but that is how it is with OEM licenses. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq sr5410f case OS Windows 7 Pro 64 SP1 CPU AMD X2 4450E @ 2.3 ghz Motherboard Biostar MCP6P M2+ Memory 4.0 g Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT , 512mb Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays auria eq2367 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard logitech wave cordless Mouse logitech LX8 cordless laser mouse PSU 250 watts Case Compaq Cooling couple fans Hard Drives 1 tb Hitachi HDT721010SLA scsi, 500 gb external Internet Speed comcast hi speed 19 dn 8 up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser IE10 Other Info Laptop specs: HP g7-1365dx /
CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 |
09 Jun 2012
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#9 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |
Please post the MGADiag report - it will tell us exactly what's going on. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
09 Jun 2012
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#10 | | Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit |
Ah well fellas it was worth a try so at least I know that in the future I will have to shell out for a full blown and a fair bit more expensive Microgreedytsoft OS.
Personally for me this is not a problem but for the few that have little expendable income or less and want to get on in life through study or whatever, it certainly doesn't go down well with me that they should be so pedantic.
I do know of some who have openly boasted on the local forum of being employees of a company that takes part in the development of M$ that can pick up full versions of the OS through the company they work for - for $20!!. Yet for for the unfortunate it's full payment or nothing.
I will personally give this young girl a computer I think even if I have to strip one down and put new parts in it and I hope the M$ fat cats enjoy their luxury yachts over the weekend in the Bahamas
A bit of latitude would have gone a long way in this instance. So much for the philanthropy eh? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (new) Desk1 / Toshiba L550 / Desk2 1st build OS Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 7 Pro all 64bit CPU Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i5 430m / Desk2 i5 2500 Motherboard Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ? Memory Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3 Graphics Card Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel Sound Card Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop Monitor(s) Displays Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 D1 & D2 Keyboard Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4 Mouse Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless PSU Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650 Case Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster Cooling Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ? Hard Drives Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Toshiba Crucial 120GB SSD
Desk2 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD Internet Speed ADSL2+ Other Info One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2011 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK Problem with validation problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:53 PM. | |