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Windows 7: Checking for updates of my windows 7 system no longer responds

29 Jun 2012   #81
a cooperator

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1-64bit.
 
 

Thank you so much indeed, Greg, please forgive me for my many questions.

First:
Product key is not shown in the OEM or in all versions of windows.
OEM : original equipment manufacturer which is a replacement part made by the manufacturer of the original part.However, the Original version of windows is the original part with its installation Disc.


Second:You said that "I should back up the key now in case sticker decays.", How can I back up it as long as I didn't see it on my system. Do you mean that write it down?

Third if the owner of a company which designated the OEM scared that product key might be stealing, so they let the product key is not shown in the window of a system's activation , then why did he let it shown in the sticker?

Fourth:What difference there is between a Product key and product ID?
I only see the product ID# is shown in the window of my system; however, the product key is only shown on the sticker in the back of Laptop.
Some people when they upload a screenshot for the window of their system, they quite keen to scratch the product ID in the frame of system's activation.
I am quite surprised because they did that, as far as I know that we activate the windows with product key. So, the product key should be scratched.

Finally: Does 'Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool' let any ISO bootable, depending on what files ISO contains.
In other words, can I burn any ISO file with that tool and then I will get a bootable CD/DVD regardless of the types of files which ISO contains.


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29 Jun 2012   #82
a cooperator

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1-64bit.
 
 

Thank you Kari, for your kind participation in this thread.
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29 Jun 2012   #83
gregrocker

 

Yes, write the key down from the COA sticker to keep it safe.

I repeat: there is no risk the key will be stolen since it can only be used on your machine.

Product ID is used by MS to trace ownership if necessary, Product Key is used by consumer to activate Windows.

You can only use the Windows Download Tool with the official Win7 downloads.

As Kari confirms, you can likely change the language during a Clean Reinstall or Repair Install with your same Product Key. So you still have the choice to do a Clean Reinstall, Repair Install or Factory Recovery.
I would start with Repair Install or Factory Recovery.
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04 Jul 2012   #84
a cooperator

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1-64bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Yes, write the key down from the COA sticker to keep it safe.
Thank Grgrocker, yesterday when I have run this program 'Belarc Advisor', I have been surprised because that the product key of my Windows system which printed on the sticker on the back of my Laptop differs from the product key shown with the details of 'Belarc Advisor'. It is true that product ID# is the same.

So, my question is which of them I have to use if I need.
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04 Jul 2012   #85
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

The installed Key is probably the manufacturer's bulk Key - and cannot be used with anything except the manufacturer's Recovery media (which already contain the Key anyhow).

The ESSENTIAL Key that you must preserve at all costs is the one on the COA sticker -it is your own personal Key and is your only proof of ownership of a Windows license, and hte only way to activate the installation if the manufacturer's Key breaks down for any of a number of reasons.
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04 Jul 2012   #86
a cooperator

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1-64bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post

The ESSENTIAL Key that you must preserve at all costs is the one on the COA sticker -it is your own personal Key and is your only proof of ownership of a Windows license, and hte only way to activate the installation if the manufacturer's Key breaks down for any of a number of reasons.
Thank you so much indeed for your participating in this thread.
I really know that the product key printed on the sticker is the important one. But when I have made a comparison between the key printed on the back of the computer and the one which 'Belarc Advisor' showed in its details, I have become a little bit confused because they are different from each other.

Yes, that 'Belarc Advisor' showed the same product ID # fro OEM. But I know this product ID # is not important at all, otherwise it shouldn't be shown in the frame of windows activation on the system's window.
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04 Jul 2012   #87
NoelDP

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by a cooperator View Post

Yes, that 'Belarc Advisor' showed the same product ID # fro OEM. But I know this product ID # is not important at all, otherwise it shouldn't be shown in the frame of windows activation on the system's window.

The Product Key and Product ID are very different things.

The Manufacturer's OEM_SLP Key is used on every machine that the manufacturer sells with that edition of Windows pre-installed.

Your COA Key is unique to you

The Product ID is generated by your computer, and depends on the Key used, and the hardware on which it is installed.

You probably share your Product ID (from the manufacturer's OEM_SLP key) with anything up to a few hundred thousand other people.

If you change the Key to the the one on your COA sticker, your Product ID will also change - but it will still be shared probably with a few tens of thousands of others.

Belarc and other KeyFinder programs can only find the actual Key in use - and for the vast majority of people who bought machines with Windows pre-installed, that means teh OEM_SLP Key which is useless to them.
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04 Jul 2012   #88
a cooperator

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1-64bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post



The Manufacturer's OEM_SLP Key is used on every machine that the manufacturer sells with that edition of Windows pre-installed.

Your COA Key is unique to you

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Thank you so much indeed,
Due to your speech above and this: SLP keys will work with any OEM SLP system, regardless of the OEM system’s brand, i.e. not brand specific"

My question is I can use my OEM_SLP Key for windows home premium SP1-64bit to activate windows ultimate SP1-64bit?

Finally: I have read this somewhere:
OEM SLP product keys are the only keys that are able to perform offline activation instantly and locally, without going online or connecting to Microsoft server. OEM SLP keys are only issued to big manufacturers such as Dell, Asus, Sony, etc.

My question is that my computer is HP, but the windows which came with it is OEM which is 'Windows 7 Home Premium Home Edition Media Center 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1 (64-bit)'

On the sticker is written 'Windows 7 Home Prem OA MEA'

Finlay: which one is the best, OEM:NONSLP (Non System Locked Pre-installation), OEM:SLP (System Locked Pre-installation), OEM:COA (Certificate of Authentication)?

I think my windows system is OEM:COA (Certificate of Authentication) as long as there is a product key on the sticker on the back on my computer.

I think such a technology would confuse and dodge the customers because when I purchased my laptop, I didn't receive a Windows installation disc. Only I have a COA sticker pasted on the casing on my computer. I think this is not good technology, the customers should have got a Windows installation disc along with product key instead of these quite difficult terms such OEM:SLP (System Locked Pre-installation)/OEM:NONSLP (Non System Locked Pre-installation)/OEM:COA (Certificate of Authentication)

These terms alone would be confusing the customers
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04 Jul 2012   #89
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by a cooperator View Post
Thank you so much indeed, then I can use my OEM_SLP Key for windows home premium SP1-64bit to activate windows ultimate SP1-64bit?

Finally: I have read this somewhere:
OEM SLP product keys are the only keys that are able to perform offline activation instantly and locally, without going online or connecting to Microsoft server. OEM SLP keys are only issued to big manufacturers such as Dell, Asus, Sony, etc.

My question is that my computer is HP, but the windows which came with it is OEM which is 'Windows 7 Home Premium Home Edition Media Center 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1 (64-bit)'

On the sticker is written 'Windows 7 Home Prem OA MEA'
You can use the COA Key **on the computer to which it is attached** and no other - and if you replace the motherboard on that computer, except under warranty conditions, the license is automatically invalidated (MS considers the license to be irretrievably locked to the original motherboard on which it is installed and activated).

OEM_SLP Keys form part of a system which self-activates the installation on every boot. The other parts of this system are
1) the SLIC table in the motherboard's BIOS
2) Certificates and licenses only present in the machine manufacturer's initial install and Recovery media.

These Keys are only used by large 'Direct OEM' manufacturers (there is a minimum sales requirement in the 1000's per month)
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04 Jul 2012   #90
a cooperator

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1-64bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by a cooperator View Post
Thank you so much indeed, then I can use my OEM_SLP Key for windows home premium SP1-64bit to activate windows ultimate SP1-64bit?

Finally: I have read this somewhere:
OEM SLP product keys are the only keys that are able to perform offline activation instantly and locally, without going online or connecting to Microsoft server. OEM SLP keys are only issued to big manufacturers such as Dell, Asus, Sony, etc.

My question is that my computer is HP, but the windows which came with it is OEM which is 'Windows 7 Home Premium Home Edition Media Center 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1 (64-bit)'

On the sticker is written 'Windows 7 Home Prem OA MEA'
You can use the COA Key **on the computer to which it is attached** and no other - and if you replace the motherboard on that computer, except under warranty conditions, the license is automatically invalidated (MS considers the license to be irretrievably locked to the original motherboard on which it is installed and activated).
Thank you so much indeed,

But I have two question here I would respectfully like you to answer me:
First: I have read here:[Contrary to popular belief, the product key printed on the COA sticker is not used to activate the Windows, it’s master SLP royalty key that does the job. COA product key is provided as it would be required if a reinstallation of Windows is needed, unless users backup OEM activation beforehand. End-users are required to perform activation by phone or activate online.]

How can then I activate my system?

Second: if someone use this program 'Microsoft PIDX Check' to get the product which activated my windows, can he succeed to reuse it in his Windows ? ?
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