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Windows 7: can't update important files and services while the system is using

01 Dec 2012   #51
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Hmmm - try running this fixit - it may fix your problems with Search, if nothing else!
Error message when you try to perform a backup on a Windows Vista-based computer: "0x80071A91"

Please run teh following command and post the results.
SC QC NETLOGON


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01 Dec 2012   #52
drfhoule

64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

(1) Oddly, I get the message that this fix-it does not apply to my computer (see attached).
(2) Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>sc qc netlogon
[SC] QueryServiceConfig SUCCESS

SERVICE_NAME: netlogon
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
START_TYPE : 3 DEMAND_START
ERROR_CONTROL : 1 NORMAL
BINARY_PATH_NAME : C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe
LOAD_ORDER_GROUP : MS_WindowsRemoteValidation
TAG : 0
DISPLAY_NAME : Netlogon
DEPENDENCIES : LanmanWorkstation
SERVICE_START_NAME : LocalSystem

C:\Windows\system32>
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01 Dec 2012   #53
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Bother - I was hoping that a Vista fixit would also run on Win7 - obviously not.

Use the manual method from the article
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01 Dec 2012   #54
drfhoule

64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>fsutil resource setautoreset true c:\
The operation completed successfully.

C:\Windows\system32>

updated event logs attached
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01 Dec 2012   #55
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

There's something odd about those logs - they don't appear to be recording all the normal events.
There's no apparent change in system behaviour.

Have you rebooted since trying the fix?
Please run the following command

REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Search"

Post the results.
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01 Dec 2012   #56
drfhoule

64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

(1) Rebooted
(2) Results of last command :
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>reg query" HKLM\software\microsoft\windows search"
ERROR: Invalid Argument/Option - 'query HKLM\software\microsoft\windows search'.

Type "REG /?" for usage.

C:\Windows\system32>reg query "hklm\software\microsoft\windows search"

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search
indexer:ci:MaxRestrictionNodes REG_DWORD 0x7ef40
CurrentVersion REG_SZ 6.1.7601.17610
UseLowPriorityConfiguration REG_DWORD 0x1
DataDirectory REG_EXPAND_SZ %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Search\Data\
InstallDirectory REG_EXPAND_SZ %systemroot%\system32\
DefaultDataDirectory REG_EXPAND_SZ %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Search\Data
\
SetupCompletedSuccessfully REG_DWORD 0x0
IndexerCatalogVersion REG_SZ 4.60101.60101
SystemIndexNormalization REG_DWORD 0x1
RebuildIndex REG_DWORD 0x2

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\Applications
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\Capabilities
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\CatalogNames
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\CrawlScopeManager
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\Databases
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\Gather
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\Gathering Manager
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\Indexer
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\InstallDirectory
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\PerformanceCounters
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\PHSearchConnectors
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\PreviousSettings
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\ProtocolHandlers
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\SearchService
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\Tracing
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\UsnNotifier
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\software\microsoft\windows search\VolumeInfoCache

C:\Windows\system32>

(3) New event logs attached
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01 Dec 2012   #57
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

That looks normal.
I'm trying to work out where the coruption is - whether it's in the control files or the output files. At the moment, I think the favourite is in the control files, but I'm uncertain as to how to properly rebuild them.
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01 Dec 2012   #58
drfhoule

64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Don't lose sleep over this! Have a beer and take the rest of the weekend off - I have a portable PC and - I hesitate to say this - a Mac that has never given me any trouble at all
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02 Dec 2012   #59
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Please run the following commands, and post the results.

REG QUERY HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\WSearch /S
DIR C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Applications\Windows
DIR C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search\Data\Temp

Post the results, and we'll see where we are (hopefully!)
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02 Dec 2012   #60
drfhoule

64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>reg query hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolset\servic
es\wsearch /s

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services\wsearch
DisplayName REG_SZ Windows Search
ErrorControl REG_DWORD 0x1
ImagePath REG_EXPAND_SZ %systemroot%\system32\SearchIndexer.exe /Embed
ding
Start REG_DWORD 0x2
Type REG_DWORD 0x10
Description REG_SZ @%systemroot%\system32\SearchIndexer.exe,-104
DependOnService REG_MULTI_SZ RPCSS
ObjectName REG_SZ LocalSystem
ServiceSidType REG_DWORD 0x1
RequiredPrivileges REG_MULTI_SZ SeChangeNotifyPrivilege\0SeManageVolum
ePrivilege\0SeImpersonatePrivilege\0SeAssignPrimaryTokenPrivilege\0SeIncreaseQuo
taPrivilege\0SeTcbPrivilege
FailureActionsOnNonCrashFailures REG_DWORD 0x1
DelayedAutoStart REG_DWORD 0x0
FailureActions REG_BINARY 80510100000000000000000003000000140000000100
00003075000001000000307500000000000000000000


C:\Windows\system32>dir c:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\applications\window
s
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 8AF5-69C1

Directory of c:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\applications\windows

02/12/2012 11:32 AM <DIR> .
02/12/2012 11:32 AM <DIR> ..
02/12/2012 11:32 AM <DIR> Config
02/12/2012 11:32 AM <DIR> GatherLogs
02/12/2012 11:32 AM 8,192 MSS.chk
02/12/2012 11:32 AM 1,048,576 MSS.log
02/12/2012 11:32 AM 1,048,576 MSSres00001.jrs
02/12/2012 11:32 AM 1,048,576 MSSres00002.jrs
02/12/2012 11:32 AM <DIR> Projects
02/12/2012 11:32 AM 75,563,008 Windows.edb
5 File(s) 78,716,928 bytes
5 Dir(s) 281,197,125,632 bytes free

C:\Windows\system32>dir c:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\temp
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 8AF5-69C1

Directory of c:\programdata\microsoft\search\data\temp

02/12/2012 11:32 AM <DIR> .
02/12/2012 11:32 AM <DIR> ..
0 File(s) 0 bytes
2 Dir(s) 281,197,125,632 bytes free

C:\Windows\system32>
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