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Windows 7: Windows Update won't update.

30 Jan 2013   #41
Max Power

Window 7 Professional 64
 
 

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
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C:\Windows\system32>REG QUERY HKU

HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-442293324-438694571-2947008842-1000
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-442293324-438694571-2947008842-1000_Classes
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18

C:\Windows\system32>REG QUERY HKU\S-1-5-20

HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\AppEvents
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Console
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Control Panel
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Environment
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\EUDC
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Keyboard Layout
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Network
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Printers
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Software
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\System

C:\Windows\system32>REG QUERY HKU\S-1-5-20\Environment

HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-20\Environment
TEMP REG_EXPAND_SZ %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp
TMP REG_EXPAND_SZ %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Temp


C:\Windows\system32>REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion
\ProfileList\S-1-5-20"

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-
5-20
ProfileImagePath REG_EXPAND_SZ C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkServi
ce
Flags REG_DWORD 0x0
State REG_DWORD 0x0


C:\Windows\system32>REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion
\ProfileList"

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList
ProfilesDirectory REG_EXPAND_SZ %SystemDrive%\Users
Default REG_EXPAND_SZ %SystemDrive%\Users\Default
Public REG_EXPAND_SZ %SystemDrive%\Users\Public
ProgramData REG_EXPAND_SZ %SystemDrive%\ProgramData

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-
5-18
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-
5-19
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-
5-20
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-
5-21-442293324-438694571-2947008842-1000
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-
5-21-442293324-438694571-2947008842-1001
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-
5-21-442293324-438694571-2947008842-1003

C:\Windows\system32>


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30 Jan 2013   #42
tom982

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tom982 View Post
Hi Max,

Thanks, that's great.

In the mean time, would you mind uploading this log please:

C:\Windows\Logs\CBS.log

It should tell us a little about what's going on.

Tom
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fbjykb32zztw4ka/CBS.log

As for the previous set of instructions, do I need a Windows disc? Do I need to change boot order in the BIOS? I feel a little over my head in there.
Hi Max,

Sorry for the delay.

I've never seen errors like these in a CBS log before:

Code:
2013-01-26 07:47:14, Info                  CBS    Failed to open file: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy18\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe [HRESULT = 0x80070570 - ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT]
2013-01-26 07:47:14, Info                  CBS    Failed to load ntoskrnl.exe to detect bitness from offline image: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy18\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe [HRESULT = 0x80070570 - ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT]
2013-01-26 07:47:14, Info                  CBS    Failed to populate information about offline store. [HRESULT = 0x80070570 - ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT]
Which also means that I don't know how to fix them. I had no idea that VSS even came into Windows Updates, looks like I better get learning!

I hate to say it, but I'm completely out of ideas here. I'm usually more than happy to attempt a fix, or at least diagnose the problem further, but I really have no idea where to even start on this one. If the others can't sort this out for you, then I'm afraid there's nothing left to do but attempt a repair install.

Tom
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30 Jan 2013   #43
Max Power

Window 7 Professional 64
 
 

I have the repair disc from Dell. What all does that entail? Is it a wipe and re-install, or does it fox what is broken?

How the heck do all these errors happen anyway? If I upgraded to 8, would it be fixed?
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31 Jan 2013   #44
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tom982;2275461I've never seen errors like these in a CBS log before:

[code
2013-01-26 07:47:14, Info CBS Failed to open file: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy18\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe [HRESULT = 0x80070570 - ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT]
2013-01-26 07:47:14, Info CBS Failed to load ntoskrnl.exe to detect bitness from offline image: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy18\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe [HRESULT = 0x80070570 - ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT]
2013-01-26 07:47:14, Info CBS Failed to populate information about offline store. [HRESULT = 0x80070570 - ERROR_FILE_CORRUPT][/code]

Which also means that I don't know how to fix them. I had no idea that VSS even came into Windows Updates, looks like I better get learning!
Of course it uses VSS. It creates a restore point using Volume Shadowing. I can understand it can't read something while reading from shadowset. But why this happens on creating a restore point?

Now I write this I know why..... It uses NTFS transactions. Assume a patch replaces 3 files. They should be replaced all 3 (no other process sees it). If all is successful the transaction is COMMITTED and visible to other processes. NTFS transactions use VSS as well.

Try to delete all restore points. Or even better disable system restore on C, apply, reenable it and apply again.
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31 Jan 2013   #45
tom982

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Sorry, that was poorly written. I knew a restore point was made upon installing updates, but what I didn't know is why it was trying to load the components from the VSS cache.
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31 Jan 2013   #46
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tom982 View Post
Sorry, that was poorly written. I knew a restore point was made upon installing updates, but what I didn't know is why it was trying to load the components from the VSS cache.
Vista introduces Transactional NTFS (TxF) which requires VSS to ensure transactional consistency.

Transactional NTFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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31 Jan 2013   #47
tom982

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tom982 View Post
Sorry, that was poorly written. I knew a restore point was made upon installing updates, but what I didn't know is why it was trying to load the components from the VSS cache.
Vista introduces Transactional NTFS (TxF) which requires VSS to ensure transactional consistency.

Transactional NTFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thanks for the link! I'll have a read now
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