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I will never argue with you Noel.
There has been a seller selling real copies of 'refurbished' licenses from the same listing for a few months now and they haven't taken it down.That's not really fair - they are quick to remove listings for demonstrably counterfeit products, and do work closely with MS in attempting to keep a level playing-field.
Is there a law against unbundling software in the EU?
Why do you think MS are now embedding the product key in the firmware?
Could it possibly be because Europeans have a right to unbundle software ?
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Hmm Icitl when I was over in the UK last year my brother had bought Windows 7 from Ebay and it turned out to be an old Dell disk and it was a nightmare and thank goodness Microsoft were very understanding let us use the activation code for the ISO from here
Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7
I don't know what it was SIW only that it seemed to only install certain parts of the OS and that was followed up with it not activating properly. Frankly it was a right royal shambles and why I used the ISO because in my mind the disk was so corrupted with whatever or like you say was intended for a Dell machine. The machine my brother had was an old Acer which originally had Vista and the drive we had to replace as it was shot, and after three attempts at installing the OS I decided to go that path and like I said Microsoft could not have been more helpful. My brother although fairly able with computing did not know what to do and he had been trying for a week before I got there. All in all it took three days of mucking around and getting nowhere hence me saying it was a nightmare.
I don't know anything about the EU. I think Micrsoft is embedding the product key in the firmware to stop piracy and the moving of product keys (which has been proven to be easy). I know the EU has lots of trade restrictions and regulations (which can be awesome) that stop some vendors from having complete rights.Is there a law against unbundling software in the EU?
Why do you think MS are now embedding the product key in the firmware?
Could it possibly be because Europeans have a right to unbundle software ?
When I ordered mine, it came with an official Windows 7 holographic 32-bit disk. I just used a 64-bit DVD from Microsoft's servers to install. It activated properly. but my install isn't 100% legal. I don't feel like spending money and buying a $135 retail license and reconfiguring all my software because it is on my main laptop. I just told MS about my predicament and told them to step up counterfeit software restrictions on eBay or other websites. It's just sad knowing that 'Authorized Microsoft Refurbishes' are selling software to others or selling them online for retail prices.Hmm Icitl when I was over in the UK last year my brother had bought Windows 7 from Ebay and it turned out to be an old Dell disk and it was a nightmare and thank goodness Microsoft were very understanding let us use the activation code for the ISO from here
I just wish MS had a 'If you have a product key, you can have it on one computer' policy and OEM/Retail wouldn't apply. Your computer would just be checked by servers everyday at like 12 noon or something if they are on the same motherboard and probably hard drive, it would check out. And uninstalling your PK would be possible by using a program and installing it on another PC would just require another tool. Boom! Simple! If it's broken, call customer support. I wish MS was this simple with everything. Their whole 'activation server' thing is just a mess.
I guess I have to deal with using a version of Windows that doesn't comply with one rule for a while. I dunno.
Yep the disk my brother had was an official disk but obviously meant for a Dell machine or the seller who we could not contact had 'played" with the thing.
I know that some security suites will only work in certain regions Kaspersky that I use is a prime example, and it might well have been that the disk was not only Dell but may have come from outside the region??
I reckon for the cost of a key or an OEM you could bypass all this hassle.
So far as I'm aware, Dell installation disks are vanilla OS disks (the drivers and add-ons are on a separate disk) and not region-limited in any way. Apart from the obvious SLP mods inserting and validating/allowing the OEM_SLP Key, I believe that they are identical to OEM System Builder disks.