Windows needs re-activation after installing SOFTWARE ..?! REALLY..?!


  1. Posts : 4
    Widnows 7 Ultimate (x64)
       #1

    Windows needs re-activation after installing SOFTWARE ..?! REALLY..?!


    I think my Windows Ultimate 64-bit is cursed... It nearly seems as tho EVERY time I install something a bit 'chunky' (.. or like today. a 'repair' of previously installed software... such as my effort today to 'repair' Roxio 2012, for instance..), I get the accursed notice that "..Windows has detected a hardware change and must be re-activated.."
    REALLY?!..
    I've had the same computer hardware for over three years (Intel i5-2500K on an MSI P67A-GD55 mobo holding 16GB of DDR3-SDRAM and two 1TB Seagate HDDs) with this (for the most part) same unchanged hardware ... virtually unchanged software (INCLUDING this Roxio 2012 software I mentioned - uh-except for the on-going hundreds of "Windows Updates" ...). And to the best of my knowledge, NO OTHER CHANGES ...
    And yet.. it seems as tho WAY too often I have to 're-activate' Windows - time after time after time.. (like more than FIVE times in the past two years.. and I even had to make a telephone call to achieve activation after changing the disk controller to AHCI when I installed my 256 GB Sandisk SSD Extreme 'boot disk'... which, for this, I most assuredly understood WAS no doubt a "significant" hardware alteration so 'reactivation' might have been necessary..) and yet, in too many cases I seem to ALWAYS have to 'reactivate' after seemingly 'minor' software changes (such as this morning's effort to 'repair' Roxio 2012).
    Simply put.. this makes absolutely NO sense to me that what WAS installed and operating well, then 'forces' a need to 'reactivate'...? - after a simple REPAIR of that previously installed software..? REALLY guys..?
    (... Have I said recently how much I just LOVE Microsoft and this whole "activation" BS..?)
    So ... Does anyone have a clue WHY this happens so often? 'Cuz, I don't have a clue (obviously) ...
    I find it ridiculous... and puts me in a place where I am very much anticipating at time when I can dump this damned Windows crap and rely solely on my Linux box which has operated FLAWLESSLY for that same period of time regardless of how many times I've updated the software and OS kernal...). If it wasn't a 'requirement' for what I do, I'd be there already...
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  2.    #2

    It is unusual. The only thing you mention that raises red flags is Roxio which is considered pernicious bloatware that can't be gotten rid of fast enough when it comes preinstalled. Not sure why you'd install that on a custom build since all of its features are found in Windows Media Center.

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  3. Posts : 4
    Widnows 7 Ultimate (x64)
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Ah - yes it IS "bloatware"... but there are aspects of Roxio that are NOT a part of Media Center, but which I use too often and employ for what I do, and yet, are (apparently) not available without "the whole 9 yards" (which I fairly routinely customize to my own needs anyway) ... But, in truth, personal opinions of software packages aren't the issue, here... and I don't find this Roxio version to be all that impossible to cope with (even as bloated as it is...). But I'm pretty certain that Roxio is simply an indicator - NOT what I expect is the actual problem with this installation of Win7 Ultimate. The whole system has been pretty much 'rock solid' for quite some time PREVIOUSLY, but what I find obnoxious is the recurrent 'false indication' from Windows that something has somehow changed (hardware-wise) that might require 're-activation'... This has also happened when installing Autodesk REVIT 2013 (64-bit) - as well as (wait for it..) ..... Microsoft Office 2013 (!!). This I find almost humorous... the fact that installing one of Microsoft's own 'flagship' productivity suites can (sometimes) also cause this to happen... Gotta love it...
    A discussion last night with another in our office has lead us both to believe that it is simply time to back it all up - blow it all away - and re-install the whole list of software "from scratch" - where no doubt it will also have the additional benefit of increasing overall performance for the interim (... until it is 'affected' by day-to-day use as per the 'normal' operation I've come to expect...). I just don't look forward to the lengthy process that this entails....
    I'd just hoped that someone had encountered this before and may have had some explanation... 'cuz this boggles me, for sure...
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  4. Posts : 4
    Widnows 7 Ultimate (x64)
    Thread Starter
       #4

    BTW: here's the WGA report that you'd mentioned I also post:

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-YMGG9-JF2CD-KYQ2D
    Windows Product Key Hash: vjGIzOPjcbHRnbaHMt7RD1m/Ewo=
    Windows Product ID: 00426-948-0848951-85404
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001
    ID: {4F0ADFE8-C85C-4AF1-B6F7-87862FA5F9CA}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: Registered, 1.9.42.0
    Signed By: Microsoft
    Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 7E90FEE8-198-80004005_025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
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    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: ac96e1a8-6cc4-4310-a4ff-332ce77fb5b8
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00426-00170-948-084895-00-1033-7600.0000-2492012
    Installation ID: 009002195302655471160732425925374551326663185151917096
    Processor Certificate URL: SpcService Web Service
    Machine Certificate URL: RacService Web Service
    Use License URL: UseLicenseService Web Service
    Product Key Certificate URL: PkcService Web Service
    Partial Product Key: KYQ2D
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
    Trusted time: 12/8/2014 8:27:33 AM

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 10:10:2014 08:23
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: NgAAAAIABAABAAEAAQACAAAAAQABAAEAHKIAIXL+9ptiNAz+St14dMb31shMv6CD/ueo8C5z

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information:
    ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
    APIC ALASKA A M I
    FACP ALASKA A M I
    HPET ALASKA A M I
    MCFG ALASKA A M I
    FPDT ALASKA A M I
    SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
    SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
    SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
    SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
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  5.    #5

    Bill, if you Clean Reinstall Windows 7 stick with the steps, tools and methods in the blue link and you'll get and keep a perfect install for as long as you do.

    I've asked our activation expert Noel to look at this.

    Please paste your report in the code box (# symbol on tool bar in reply box) to avoid it distorting the thread as it has.
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  6. Posts : 21,482
    Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
       #6

    One of the most common causes of a request for re-activation is a change in the MAC address of a network card - this is almost guaranteed to cause a demand.
    Beyond that, changes in hard drive, and BIOS updates are fairly common causes.
    See if you can find anything in the performance logs which may give you a pointer to what's changing in the system.
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