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Windows 7: How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8

10 Sep 2015   #381
Cr00zng

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX El Capitan, Windows 10 (VMware)
 
 

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Yep this is why I don't bother hiding some updates anymore does little good
I can't say I noticed them 2 weeks ago though :/
Agreed, hiding updates is like fighting windmills and just like Don Quixote de la Mancha, we still do it ...
I disagree and feel the tilting at windmills analogy is invalid. Most of the spyware and nagware updates, once blocked, stay blocked. It's only a few of the ones I've put on my Specialized High Intensity Training list that have been repeated and most of them were repeated only a few times so blocking them was not futile. And, even I have to keep rejecting the blasted things, I will continue to do so. It's sheeple who roll over and take MSpy's abuse of power that gives them the justification to keep doing so.
In the case of "Most of the spyware and nagware updates", yes, the analogy is invalid, while in other cases it is still relevant. We also don't know how Microsoft will combine the security updates with MS "spyware and nagware" (gotto love your definition ) in the near future. It isn't that hard for MS to require optional updates for security updates.

Please keep in mind that I am not arguing against keeping a tab on updates, quite the opposite. Despite knowing that keeping the "spyware and nagware" off my systems is an uphill battle, I am still doing it, even if it is a lost cause. Over my dead keyboard Microsoft can install their junk updates...


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10 Sep 2015   #382
scr

1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
 
 

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I wish MS would just stop with the W10 updates now that it`s been released, enough already, you don`t even need those updates to install it, you can use the other methods. Enough already Microsoft, stop it please, ahhh, ughhh

My updated list.

Updates not to Install

KB2876229 SKYPE, If you want Skype then install it.
KB2923545 RDP
KB2970228
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917
KB3068708 Telemetry
KB2592687
KB2660075
KB2506928
KB2952664 x2
KB3050265
KB2726535
KB2994023
KB3022345 Replaced by KB3068708 Telemetry

KB3022345 Caused false sfc result
KB2545698 (IE9)
KB3065987
KB3077715
KB3078667
KB3080149 Telemetry
KB3075249 Telemetry
Why KB3077715 is bad?
I've taken the liberty of putting the above listed updates to avoid in numerical order and combined the reasons for KB3022345.

I have no doubt that I will be doing a clean install of Windows 7 on my two machines in the future. Looking through the list of over 200 updates in non numerical order and comparing them to a list of updates to avoid in non numerical order will make my head hurt.

I thought it maybe useful to others contemplating a clean install. I have more on my personal list but they are specifically related to my systems.

Updates not to Install (In numerical order)

KB2506928
KB2545698 (IE9)
KB2592687
KB2660075
KB2726535
KB2876229 SKYPE, If you want Skype then install it.
KB2923545 RDP
KB2952664 x2
KB2970228
KB2990214
KB2994023
KB3021917
KB3022345 Caused false sfc result / Replaced by KB3068708 Telemetry
KB3035583
KB3050265
KB3065987
KB3068708 Telemetry
KB3075249 Telemetry
KB3077715
KB3078667
KB3080149 Telemetry
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10 Sep 2015   #383
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I'm still trying to find out everything KB3083324 does. Good or Bad I don't know.
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10 Sep 2015   #384
xips

 
 

Edit: I got another KB confused with KB3083324. All these KBs are getting difficult to keep up with.

I also disabled checking for updates again and unchecked everything. I'm in manual mode now and I feel fine.
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11 Sep 2015   #385
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

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Couple new ones,
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249
I guess this one is supposed to fix the prior ones :/
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149
Posted those 2 a few weeks ago thrash. Those were optional but they came back as recommended (as I said they would).

Hidden again! Nice try Microsoft!
I remember, and you were right.


So, These three are not recommended for this month :
KB3075249
KB3080149
KB3083324


Share this article relates to the topic :
Didn’t ask for Windows 10? Your PC may have downloaded it anyway | PCWorld
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11 Sep 2015   #386
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

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Couple new ones,
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249
I guess this one is supposed to fix the prior ones :/
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149
Posted those 2 a few weeks ago thrash. Those were optional but they came back as recommended (as I said they would).

Hidden again! Nice try Microsoft!
I remember, and you were right.


So, These three are not recommended for this month :
KB3075249
KB3080149
KB3083324


Share this article relates to the topic :
Didn’t ask for Windows 10? Your PC may have downloaded it anyway | PCWorld
I've hidden the first two but installed the last one.

The windows update client updates don't concern me that much. But others have skipped those too so it's really up to you.
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11 Sep 2015   #387
3Colors

64-bit Windows 7 Professional
 
 

The windows update client updates : That is to improve performance, technical aspects ?


Taking into account those two optional became Recommended (KB3075249, KB3080149): Without those two, I should have about 8 or 7 there, but now I have four. Those who disappeared optional is because it was not needed, they had a deadline or have joined the list of recommended as the two mentioned above ?
I do not think they have passed the recommended list or maybe they do ?
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11 Sep 2015   #388
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

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The windows update client updates : That is to improve performance, technical aspects ?


Taking into account those two optional became Recommended (KB3075249, KB3080149): Without those two, I should have about 8 or 7 there, but now I have four. Those who disappeared optional is because it was not needed, they had a deadline or have joined the list of recommended as the two mentioned above ?
I do not think they have passed the recommended list or maybe they do ?
Well the windows update client updates are the ones that are responsible for auto-downloading the 10 update in the background (yes, very naughty Microsoft!). So if you want to install those updates you'll definitely want to disable that. I posted the workaround a few pages back.

I haven't noticed any unusual activity from those updates yet. But I'm keeping my eye on them. They'll be immediately removed if I do notice any.

I currently have 6 hidden updates related to 10 and telemetry.
I think it would be around 11 if I'd skipped the WU client updates too.
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11 Sep 2015   #389
drlee6530

Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
 
 
windows 10 and malware

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I don't understand the point as to why someone would want to remove them.
Paranoia, perhaps. I'd like to know why MS is rolling them out now piecemeal. Why not offer the upgrade package when a user wants it? My guess is they are trolling for install information to see what impact there will be when a W7 user actually tries to upgrade to W10. It won't be me.
If you install windows 10 and agree to the license you also agree to allow Microsoft to snoop on your machine including but not limited to using a key log to see what you are doing.

If a court wanted to do this it would require a court order!!!

Security consultant with over 40 years of experience suggests go to Unix such as Red Hat as it has been around for a long time and you can get the source code and even compile it yourself. Red Hat is free and has a windows emulator in it so you can still run windows programs..
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12 Sep 2015   #390
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Zelcoin and SCR, I can't thank you enough. I'm updating my wife's computer, and don't want to screw it up. your lists helps immeasurably in this.
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