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Windows 7: How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8

17 Oct 2015   #481
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michael diemer View Post
...I guess I'm hoping that eventually, MS will pull back, after sufficient outcry. Or lawsuits.
This is a mass tort lawsuit just waiting to happen. Even though I would get little to no cash from such a suit (mass tort lawsuits are moneymakers for the lawyers only; they're a disgrace to our legal system), I would be all over one of those like stink on skunk.


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17 Oct 2015   #482
zelcoin

Win7
 
 

zelcoin's Bad updates Windows 7/8.1 list (as of 17/10/2015):

KB971033
KB2922324
KB2952664
KB2976978
KB2977759
KB2990214
KB3012973
KB3015249
KB3021917
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB3044374
KB3068708
KB3075249
KB3080149
KB3083324
KB3083325
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17 Oct 2015   #483
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zelcoin View Post
zelcoin's Bad updates Windows 7/8.1 list (as of 17/10/2015):

KB971033
KB2922324
KB2952664
KB2976978
KB2977759
KB2990214
KB3012973
KB3015249
KB3021917
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB3044374
KB3068708
KB3075249
KB3080149
KB3083324
KB3083325
I'm not trying to start anything. I genuinely would like to know what version of the Windows Update (WU) client are you using? And do you see high memory usage during the WU scans and installs?
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17 Oct 2015   #484
zelcoin

Win7
 
 

Quote:
I'm not trying to start anything. I genuinely would like to know what version of the Windows Update (WU) client are you using? And do you see high memory usage during the WU scans and installs?
Yes i do see high memory usage for scanning, installs are normal. But i manually check for updates when updates occur (usually once a month) so i don't mind my bad client.
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17 Oct 2015   #485
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zelcoin View Post
zelcoin's Bad updates Windows 7/8.1 list (as of 17/10/2015):

KB971033
KB2922324
KB2952664
KB2976978
KB2977759
KB2990214
KB3012973
KB3015249
KB3021917
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB3044374
KB3068708
KB3075249
KB3080149
KB3083324
KB3083325
I'm not trying to start anything. I genuinely would like to know what version of the Windows Update (WU) client are you using? And do you see high memory usage during the WU scans and installs?
RE: KB971033. I am informed that it should be installed. Checks your windows is legit every 90 days I think.

RE: Windows Update Client.

I had high memory usage (netsvcs.exe) for more than six months and fixed it many times by resetting WU components and running MicrosoftFixit50202.msi three times in a row but needed to prevent WU updating to the latest WU client each time and also needed to manually delete certain folders and files.

I fixed it and eaxh time the problem eventually returned.

Currently I have force installed KB3075851 after removing all other WU Client versions and running advanced disk cleanup. Memory usage has remained stable even when running WU checks.


Current Memory Usage
How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-resource-monitor.jpg
Currently 71 processes running including quite a few security apps and a browser.
How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-processes.jpg
For those people experiencing high RAM usage when windows checks for updates I'd say it is worth checking how much RAM datastore.edb is using and how many handles it has open.


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17 Oct 2015   #486
Hedied4me

64 bit windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Currently I have force installed KB3075851 after removing all other WU Client versions and running advanced disk cleanup. Memory usage has remained stable even when running WU checks.
Id avoid this one. At this point Im installing them one at a time to know for sure which ones are bad and 3075851 caused Windows 10 downloading and "getting setup files" for me.
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17 Oct 2015   #487
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hedied4me View Post

Id avoid this one. At this point Im installing them one at a time to know for sure which ones are bad and 3075851 caused Windows 10 downloading and "getting setup files" for me.
Not for me. Did you have windows updates set to download and install automatically and also did you mistakenly check that "Give me recommended updates the same way as I receive important updates" checkbox?
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17 Oct 2015   #488
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
RE: KB971033. I am informed that it should be installed. Checks your windows is legit every 90 days I think.
You don't need it.

However, if you try to download updates directly from MS you may be asked to install & run "GenuineCheck.exe".

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Currently I have force installed KB3075851 after removing all other WU Client versions and running advanced disk cleanup. Memory usage has remained stable even when running WU checks.
KB3075851 fixed my excessive RAM and CPU usage problems.
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17 Oct 2015   #489
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zelcoin View Post
Quote:
I'm not trying to start anything. I genuinely would like to know what version of the Windows Update (WU) client are you using? And do you see high memory usage during the WU scans and installs?
Yes i do see high memory usage for scanning, installs are normal. But i manually check for updates when updates occur (usually once a month) so i don't mind my bad client.
Thanks, I am hoping to find someone that does not see this issue and then find out which WU client they use. But it might not be as simple as using one WU client update vs. other WU client updates.

Callender,
As you saw in this post, I have a VM patched with SP1 and not much else. That same frozen VM has been brought all the way up to completely patched many times in the past few years. The last few attempts to fully update it have been met with high RAM and high CPU usage. I have not seen that in the past and I don't know exactly when it started.

The high usage does not cause me any problems (other than heating up the room). I don't have this high resource usage on any real computers... but I do (mildly) wonder what the cause might be.

To be clear, I'm not talking about RAM starting out at 1.7GB (which this laptop is using right now) and climbing to 2GB or even 3GB during a WU scan/install. I'm talking about WU using all available RAM and pushing well into the swap file - no matter how much RAM is assigned/installed. That is what I see in the VM and that is what I've seen in a few threads.
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17 Oct 2015   #490
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zelcoin View Post
KB3075851 fixed my excessive RAM and CPU usage problems.
I'm pretty sure that I tried that one.

By try, I mean install that first and then let the VM scan for all other updates. I still had it max out the RAM.

Oh well, maybe I should stick to solving problems that my users are facing...
...which is none at the moment :-)
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