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Windows 7: How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8

17 Oct 2015   #491
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
RE: KB971033. I am informed that it should be installed. Checks your windows is legit every 90 days I think.
You don't need it.

However, if you try to download updates directly from MS you may be asked to install & run "GenuineCheck.exe".

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Currently I have force installed KB3075851 after removing all other WU Client versions and running advanced disk cleanup. Memory usage has remained stable even when running WU checks.
KB3075851 fixed my excessive RAM and CPU usage problems.
My RAM and CPU has improved significantly when doing scans for updates. That's why I've stopped ignoring the WU client updates. I just use the GP workaround to block the 10 upgrade. But, I've seen no ill-effects from installing those on my system, only an improvement while scanning.


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17 Oct 2015   #492
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
I have a VM patched with SP1 and not much else. That same frozen VM has been brought all the way up to completely patched many times in the past few years. The last few attempts to fully update it have been met with high RAM and high CPU usage. I have not seen that in the past and I don't know exactly when it started.

The high usage does not cause me any problems (other than heating up the room). I don't have this high resource usage on any real computers... but I do (mildly) wonder what the cause might be.

To be clear, I'm not talking about RAM starting out at 1.7GB (which this laptop is using right now) and climbing to 2GB or even 3GB during a WU scan/install. I'm talking about WU using all available RAM and pushing well into the swap file - no matter how much RAM is assigned/installed. That is what I see in the VM and that is what I've seen in a few threads.
Maybe check this post:

100% CPU Usage svchost.exe windows update eror 0x80070005 Please Read

If you can run RAMmap in your VM does it show high memory usage by datastore.edb ?
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17 Oct 2015   #493
Hedied4me

64 bit windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
My RAM and CPU has improved significantly when doing scans for updates. That's why I've stopped ignoring the WU client updates. I just use the GP workaround to block the 10 upgrade. But, I've seen no ill-effects from installing those on my system, only an improvement while scanning.
Whats the GP workaround?
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17 Oct 2015   #494
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hedied4me View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
My RAM and CPU has improved significantly when doing scans for updates. That's why I've stopped ignoring the WU client updates. I just use the GP workaround to block the 10 upgrade. But, I've seen no ill-effects from installing those on my system, only an improvement while scanning.
Whats the GP workaround?
Take a look at my earlier post:
http://www.sevenforums.com/general-d...ml#post3141430
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17 Oct 2015   #495
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

I gave RAMMap a try. Sadly, I could not get the RAM to go over 2.2GB out of 4GB. (I changed the RAM assigned - as I have done in the past - to let the scan go faster.) I did not wait for the installation of the updates. The database file did have about the same amount of RAM assigned to it that your screenshot showed - but the vast majority of it was not locked.

How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-scan.png

How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-standby.png


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18 Oct 2015   #496
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Once again, my current list and my WUA version is 7.6.7601.18979


Updates not to Install

KB2876229 SKYPE, If you want Skype then install it.
KB2923545 RDP
KB2970228
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917
KB3068708 Telemetry
KB2592687
KB2660075
KB2506928
KB2952664 x2
KB3050265
KB2726535
KB2994023
KB3022345 Replaced by KB3068708 Telemetry

KB3022345 Caused false sfc result
KB2545698 (IE9)
KB3065987
KB3077715
KB3078667
KB3080149 Telemetry
KB3075249 Telemetry
KB2999226
KB3083710
KB3097966
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18 Oct 2015   #497
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
I gave RAMMap a try. Sadly, I could not get the RAM to go over 2.2GB out of 4GB. (I changed the RAM assigned - as I have done in the past - to let the scan go faster.) I did not wait for the installation of the updates. The database file did have about the same amount of RAM assigned to it that your screenshot showed - but the vast majority of it was not locked.
Well your screenshot shows the same problem with datastore.edb that I have seen on my own machine. No way should it show that many open handles.

Normal behaviour is like this:

With a windows update check in progress have a look at usage shown in the "Active" tab.
How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-rammap-wu-check-running.jpg
Also this is normal for the number of handles. I used Process Explorer but as you found out RAMmap can display some details on handles too.
How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-process-explorer-search.jpg
Note: Memory usage by datastore.edb during WU checks seems to have crept up since I last checked. Here's how it appeared after the fix:
How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-datastore-edb-2.jpg
EDIT: Just for comparison. Screenshot of "Active" tab before the problem was fixed:
How to remove Windows 10 upgrade updates in Windows 7 and 8-datastore-edb-before.jpg


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18 Oct 2015   #498
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Updates not to Install
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KB3097966
What is the problem with that update?
It seems to be related to security certificates.
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18 Oct 2015   #499
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Could be ?
Little too close to Halloween for a spoofing update
Quote:
Known issues in this security update
  • Microsoft is aware of legitimate kernel drivers for D-Link products (including network adapters) that were signed by the affected D-Link certificates. These drivers include the Windows 7 drivers on the installation CD for the DUB-E100 USB network adapter. After you install this security update, these kernel drivers will no longer load, and the hardware will stop functioning. Updated drivers that aren't affected by this issue are available on Windows Update.
The third-party products that this article discusses are manufactured by companies that are independent of Microsoft. Microsoft makes no warranty, implied or otherwise, about the performance or reliability of these products.
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18 Oct 2015   #500
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Callender,
I do see a high number of handles; about 790M. Deleting the softwaredistribution folder and starting with a fresh datastore database does cause fewer active handles (~186M). The overall RAM usage is the same; but, since most of that RAM was not locked by active handles, it is of little concern.

Rather than find the last good WU client, deleting the softwaredistribution folder seems easiest for fresh builds. For existing builds, such a deletion would unhide hidden updates. Perhaps the a more surgical approach might work.
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