Microsoft is playing dirty pool

AddRAM said:

I could care less if MS made updates automatic, as long as it didn`t mess up your machine.

What are the chances of that?

I've noticed that a lot of PC enthusiasts avoid automatic OS updates (I've always used the "Notify" option). :)

We're lucky, because as users of a pre-W10 version of Windows, we can control what happens on our PC
At least it seems that way ... mostly ... some of the time.

Some versions of W10 might not have the ability to control updates.
Those users will be completely at the mercy of the MS "Patch Division".

AddRAM said:

But how would you know if you have a bad system file unless you run sfc ?

Well I don't avoid SFC entirely so perhaps I'd better explain. If I want to check I'll use the verify only option. The other thing is that if I ever get an error message about missing or corrupt files I'll replace them myself. I certainly don't allow SFC to carry out repairs.

AddRAM said:

I have KB2990214 and KB KB3021917 installed, they seem to cause no issues, unless they are one of the Windows 10 nag me updates.

Found the 1st.

KB2990214 - Microsoft Support
support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2990214
Microsoft Corporation
Describes an update that enables you to upgrade your computer from Windows 7 to a later version of Windows.

I prefer to install the update(s) as and when I wish to upgrade.

AddRAM said:

And the 2nd.

KB3021917
This update performs diagnostics in Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) in order to determine whether performance issues may be encountered when the latest Windows operating system is installed. Telemetry is sent back to Microsoft for those computers that participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP). This update will help Microsoft and its partners deliver better system performance for customers who are seeking to install the latest Windows operating system.

Personally I leave Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) off. I don't like that my security software is telling me that GWX ConfigManager wants to connect to the internet so I'll keep it off my machine until I actually need it!

That's just my own preference.

I uninstalled those last 2, added em to the list, I have no intention of changing (not gonna use the word upgrade) this box to 10.

AddRAM said:

Did it come back as a different numbered update, because I just checked and that number you gave is still hidden.

My list of hidden.

KB2876229 SKYPE

KB2647753
KB2732487
KB2923545
KB2970228
KB2977728
KB2978092
KB2994023
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917

Just ran windows update, no updates to install right now.

Just ran SFC came up 100% perfect

Thanks for sharing your list and i might check some for myself of those article IDs you listed, my actual is

KB3022345
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917
KB2952664

There wasn't the last one in your list....

NoN said:

AddRAM said:

Did it come back as a different numbered update, because I just checked and that number you gave is still hidden.

My list of hidden.

KB2876229 SKYPE

KB2647753
KB2732487
KB2923545
KB2970228
KB2977728
KB2978092
KB2994023
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917

Just ran windows update, no updates to install right now.

Just ran SFC came up 100% perfect

Thanks for sharing your list and i might check some for myself of those article IDs you listed, my actual is

KB3022345
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917
KB2952664

There wasn't the last one in your list....

Re: KB2990214.

Information suggests that it should be installed and that you can't skip it.

See the post here:

Installing KB2990214 also installs the latest Windows Update Agent.

For now - I'm keeping it off my machine. If you want to check which version of Windows Update Agent is installed you can right click on this file and check the version.

C:\Windows\System32\wuaueng.dll

Mine reads 7.6.7600.230 (not the latest version)

Should have read 7.6.7600.320

Callender said:

NoN said:

AddRAM said:

Did it come back as a different numbered update, because I just checked and that number you gave is still hidden.

My list of hidden.

KB2876229 SKYPE

KB2647753
KB2732487
KB2923545
KB2970228
KB2977728
KB2978092
KB2994023
KB3022345
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917

Just ran windows update, no updates to install right now.

Just ran SFC came up 100% perfect

Thanks for sharing your list and i might check some for myself of those article IDs you listed, my actual is

KB3022345
KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3021917
KB2952664

There wasn't the last one in your list....

Re: KB2990214.

Information suggests that it should be installed and that you can't skip it.

See the post here:

Installing KB2990214 also installs the latest Windows Update Agent.

For now - I'm keeping it off my machine. If you want to check which version of Windows Update Agent is installed you can right click on this file and check the version.

C:\Windows\System32\wuaueng.dll

Mine reads 7.6.7600.230 (not the latest version)

Thanks Callender,

I was first talking about KB2952664 but having read your post too about KB2990214.

I do not have any issue with Windows Update Agent (svchost.exe netsvcs) because i have skipped/hidden the update before it got installed, so its like my machine just have the regular WU Agent.

If stand alone does exit at some point i'll use it. If not, i'll be considering install that KB2990214.

Callender said:

For now - I'm keeping it off my machine. If you want to check which version of Windows Update Agent is installed you can right click on this file and check the version.

C:\Windows\System32\wuaueng.dll

Mine reads 7.6.7600.230 (not the latest version)

I can guarantee that it doesn't read that!
the actual version number is 7.6.7600.320
... unless you have some strange version of Windows installed.

NoelDP said:

Callender said:

For now - I'm keeping it off my machine. If you want to check which version of Windows Update Agent is installed you can right click on this file and check the version.

C:\Windows\System32\wuaueng.dll

Mine reads 7.6.7600.230 (not the latest version)

I can guarantee that it doesn't read that!
the actual version number is 7.6.7600.320
... unless you have some strange version of Windows installed.

Just checked and of course you are %100 correct Noel! Maybe I need an eye test....

This is what it says for Update KB2952664

So, it`s not getting installed, I`ll add it to the list.

This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.