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Windows 7: Can I make optional updates for MSE be automatically download please?

29 May 2015   #11
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

No, MSE doesn't pays attention to Windows update at all! It updates on its own, including if Windows updates are completely disabled (as they should). No option controls this, MSE will just rebel at fetch updates every day at will, the only condition being the Windows update service to be running (or just set to manual, I don't remember). Even though the update settings are set to never download or notify, MSE will ALWAYS download updates on its own.
Microsoft employees publicly admitted this weird behavior, saying that this cannot be disabled at all (google about it and tons more references will come). Bottom line, MSE updates automatically always. Task scheduler can add additional schedules, but don't cancels the built-in ones.


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29 May 2015   #12
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMudMob View Post
Not going well ....

as soon as I open the task scheduler I get this notice come up:
The scheduled task "{0}" no longer exists. To see the current tasks click Refresh.

When I do that it comes up again. The actual page tells me ...
Reading Data Failed

I have looked at the task list and can't find one labelled "{0}" at all. Followed the instructions in the link but at the end I got the same notice.

Anyone offer any advice as to what is wrong please?
That is indeed strange :/
Not sure how to trouble shoot that

Run sfc/ scannow
Three times in a row if necessary
SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

You can also uninstall MSE and re-install it after running sfc..
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29 May 2015   #13
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

I didn't say Windows update. I said Microsoft Software. The selection is different. Mine don't download. I get a notice the Definitions are available just like any other update. I select when to download and install it/them. So the statement "MSE will ALWAYS download updates" is not correct either. They do NOT download until I choose to let them download and install. When I do choose them, I see the moving "green bar" with the text "downloading" then I see the text "Installing".

I would give you screen shots of the process but I've already been through it this morning.
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29 May 2015   #14
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMudMob View Post
Not going well ....

as soon as I open the task scheduler I get this notice come up:
The scheduled task "{0}" no longer exists. To see the current tasks click Refresh.

When I do that it comes up again. The actual page tells me ...
Reading Data Failed

I have looked at the task list and can't find one labelled "{0}" at all. Followed the instructions in the link but at the end I got the same notice.

Anyone offer any advice as to what is wrong please?
That is indeed strange :/
Not sure how to trouble shoot that

Run sfc/ scannow
Three times in a row if necessary
SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

You can also uninstall MSE and re-install it after running sfc..
Yeah, that's not right. I'd throw in a MBAM scan too. Some malware may have taken over the scheduler.
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29 May 2015   #15
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

To add an extra note to this, MSE updates before it does a system scan. I have mine set to do a scan once a week & it updates before it does the scan, even if I have updated it earlier.

I check for updates every morning just after I start the computer & install any MSE updates that show up including the optional ones.
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29 May 2015   #16
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMudMob View Post
Not going well ....

as soon as I open the task scheduler I get this notice come up:
The scheduled task "{0}" no longer exists. To see the current tasks click Refresh.
You might have corrupt scheduled tasks.
See this LONG MS thread about this error:
Error messege: the selected task "{0}" no longer - Microsoft Community
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30 May 2015   #17
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

The 'Optionality' of Defender and MSE updates is irrelevant - it's purely a backup option, and MSE will apply the update when it gets to it itself - or WU will do it at the normal WU update time. This is the reason that you are almost inevitably going to get the occasional 'failed' notice in the Update history.

MSE has its own schedule for updating built in, and doesn't have to use Windows Update to do it.
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30 May 2015   #18
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

I get MSE Definition updates every morning through WU. And, I can fetch (get) more in the afternoon if I choose. I got it this morning and took a few snips. I can also fetch updates through MSE itself at any time or choose to let it update before running a scan. So I don't understand what you're talking about.

Gotta run for now but I can post the snips this after noon.
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