Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Does Windows Restore Hidden Updates After Joining Domain?

09 Jul 2015   #1
metalmaniac253

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 
Does Windows Restore Hidden Updates After Joining Domain?

Relatively simple question, although I have no clue what the answer is. I had hidden updates that were set in the important updates section of Windows Update which caused a BSOD with these PCs to occur at random times, but regularly. Once I rejoin the domain the PCs will update next Tuesday night. My question is will joining the domain cause these updates to be installed automatically? This would be an issue.

I cannot manually choose update settings on the domain and cannot figure out how to allow that through Group Policy (I didn't set up the Windows Update settings) so I will need to figure that out if the answer is yes. Any help is appreciated.

Edit (The key being used is a volume license MAK key, this is not an activation issue, just a windows update issue)


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
10 Jul 2015   #2
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

That depends on the Group Policy imposed by the network administrators - they have the ability to push updates whether you want them or not.
Perhaps you need to solve whatever is peculiar about your system that is causing the crashes, rather than just blaming windows updates?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
10 Jul 2015   #3
metalmaniac253

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
That depends on the Group Policy imposed by the network administrators - they have the ability to push updates whether you want them or not.
Perhaps you need to solve whatever is peculiar about your system that is causing the crashes, rather than just blaming windows updates?
I did conclusively link it to a certain update, as removing the update suddenly caused it to stop. It took a while to figure that much out, but I'll check the group policy settings to try and resolve this. That's pretty much what I was trying to find out though, so thank you.

There's no official network administrator here, but me and my supervisor have those duties. I am going to look through Group Policy for the right settings.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

10 Jul 2015   #4
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

I still think it's more likely to be a problem with your system. What troubleshooting have you done?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
10 Jul 2015   #5
metalmaniac253

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
I still think it's more likely to be a problem with your system. What troubleshooting have you done?
These are brand new PCs. I just installed and activated them today. It was after updating SP1 and running Windows Update again. Eventually there were 10 left after about 2 runs of updates.

I'm not there at the moment, so I cannot give you a ton of information.

Here's what I can say from memory alone. The BSOD happened after running the last set of updates after I was able to get most of them done I had 10 left to install. I typically make a system image immediately after running updates, so I had an image from right before installing the last 10 updates. I installed the last 10, then made another. I then tried defragmented my HDD and the BSOD happened during that. My first thought was it would be that program, (Auslogics Disk Defrag) so I tried setting up web browsers instead.

In the process I got a second and third BSOD. After that I restored to the image before the last 10 updates, set up the web browsers, made another system image, then installed one update at a time, and after about 45 minutes to an hour, I was able to determine which one it was and hid the update so that it will not install on its own.

I finished everything but connecting to the domain and had no issues. My concern is that connecting to the domain will override the local hidden update setting, install that update and cause random Blue Screens. Also we have a special login system for the public which if they do not log out manually and the PC crashes they cannot log back in unless someone goes into the database and resets their login status, so not having random crashes is critical here.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
11 Jul 2015   #6
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

Which update appears to be causing the problem?
Were these installations from images, or the manufacturer's setup?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 Jul 2015   #7
metalmaniac253

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP View Post
Which update appears to be causing the problem?
Were these installations from images, or the manufacturer's setup?
The Windows installations were done through an image of one completed system, without the problematic update. All the PCs are the same model, hardware, etc.

I'll have to check when I'm back in the office tomorrow what update it is. I just found out we do not use WSUS for updates and it says the settings are locked by the system administrator, so I will try to convince them to let me setup WSUS and that should resolve it.

On the other hand, while I have my solution, would you still like me to find what update it is?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 Jul 2015   #8
NoelDP

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
 
 

I'm always interested to know of updates which cause problems!

Thanks for coming back to us.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Does Windows Restore Hidden Updates After Joining Domain?




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Windows Update - Hide or Restore Hidden Updates
How to Hide or Restore Hidden Windows Updates in Windows 7 and Windows 8 This tutorial will show you how to either hide or unhide Windows Updates to have them listed or not listed as available to install again in Windows 7 and Windows 8. To Hide a Windows Update 1. Open the Control...
Tutorials
windows 7 not joining 2003 domain server
windows 7 not joining 2003standard domain server. windows xp is not giving any problems..tried changing DNS settings and done windows update, but problem not resolved.
General Discussion
Restore Hidden Updates on Remote Computers?
In my environment we have about 100 computers that have the IE 9 windows update hidden (along with a few other updates). We do not have a SUS server to manage the updates on all of our remote computers. What would be the easiest way to restore these hidden updates on our employees' computers? ...
Windows Updates & Activation
Windows 7 joining/leaving and rejoining a domain
I have a number of new Window 7 laptops and have joined the company domain with no problems (SBS running Windows 2003). When I was on the domain I set up a number of printers by browsing the server \mainserver\\OkiC9650 and finding the printer and it and correctly installed the drivers and...
Network & Sharing
Joining domain
I can't get my windows 7 pc into the domain. please help. The following error occurs. An attempt to resolve DNS name of a domain controller in the domain being joind is failed. Please verify this client is configured to reach a DNs server that can resolve DNS name in the target domain. ...
Network & Sharing
Hotfix for joining a Windows beta computer to a domain
If you've been having trouble joining domains when using Windows 7 beta or Windows Server 2008 R2 beta, this update is for you. Microsoft has detailed (KB article 961402) a problem with both beta operating systems trying to join domain names by using the System Properties user interface, the...
News


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 19:56.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App