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Windows 7: Change users logon corner button says updates but there are none

05 Aug 2015   #1
Gorham

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 
Change users logon corner button says updates but there are none

This is a "cry wolf" situation that isn't causing me any problem except when it did.

Running Windows 7 64-bit.

I run a, to me, complicated set up where, in addition to my "C" drive, I have three other large internal drives. Except that they're in external enclosures. I'm on a cable connection but also have a Kindle Fire so I set up a local wi-fi so I could access the 'net around my house even when I'm away from my computer. So, for security reasons, I like to shut down as far as possible when I finish here for the day so, for security reasons, I turn off all of those internal drives in enclosures because that's where my sensitive material and most of my data is; I have to leave a small windows presence loaded to run the wi-fi card and the program I use to create my local network, Connectify. What has worked well is to log off myself and the next day I have a logon screen ready to log back on as myself. I don't know why Connectify and my card keep working but apparently Windows' bare bones keeps those things running which suits me well.

As I say this has worked well except that in the past week my logon screen has a different little box in the lower right corner. It's the standard button for quitting, rebooting and the like if one has changed one's mind. But in the middle is a small shield with an exclamation point. Hovering show that it's telling me updates are waiting and to reboot. I did just that a time or two and there weren't any so I started ignoring it and treating it as if it was the regular box. Then one time I'd forgotten to finish updates and it meant it. Nothing terrible happened except an incomplete boot and it was pretty obvious I really did need to reboot. Which I did and the annoying little button was (and continues to be) still there.

Photos attached.

This is not world-ending. I can live with the inconvenience but I don't like Windows anomalies so I'd rather figure it out. Also, apologies for the wordiness. That's probably a ton more information than y'all needed but I didn't know which parts to leave in and which were superfluous so I presented the whole thing.

Sigh. As usual help is appreciated.

-G.




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05 Aug 2015   #2
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

That icon means shutdown/restart to install updates.
you stated in your post that you just log-off, not the same thing.

Roy
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05 Aug 2015   #3
Gorham

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

You're saying there might be updates that don't show the normal windows "don't shut off" screens either before or after reboot? I hadn't realized that. But it does seem odd that this happens every time I "change users"; at least once a day and sometimes more often. And I do check my system tray first and there are no updates waiting to happen. And I do have automatic updates set.

Is the group in agreement that my little button is correct and that I'm constantly getting updates?

Thanks.

-G.
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06 Aug 2015   #4
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Only 1 user will get that notification, the Administrator account usually.
Your comp will not look for any further updates > UNTIL< you update those currently waiting to installed, By restarting your comp.

I currently have 212 updates on my system, you should have roughly the same.

see screenshot circled are the latest

Roy


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06 Aug 2015   #5
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

In my Virtual OS, restart doesn't install those auto-updates, only shutdown does.

Maybe Windows Update - Reset - Option 2 if Shutdown doesn't help.
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07 Aug 2015   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Many Windows 7 Update will not completely install until the computer is either rebooted or shut down and started again.

I surly don't understand what this means. Their is no such thing as a little of Windows 7 booted and running. Windows 7 is either running or it isn't running. Kind of like you can't be almost pregnant.

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I have to leave a small windows presence loaded to run the wi-fi card and the program I use to create my local network, Connectif
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07 Aug 2015   #7
Gorham

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Okay, I may have inadvertently hit on my problem. I'm always in admin mode so notifications aren't the problem and, as I said, I have updates set to automatic but lookie, lookie what I found when I went examining the CP updates list! I do believe the dates it started failing to upgrade to Win10 (which I do not want), may be when my problems started. Now what to do about it.


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07 Aug 2015   #8
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

Reboot your computer
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08 Aug 2015   #9
Gorham

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GokAy View Post
In my Virtual OS, restart doesn't install those auto-updates, only shutdown does.

Maybe Windows Update - Reset - Option 2 if Shutdown doesn't help.
You may have a point. But I have rebooted and it didn't solve it. Oddly enough, when I went to my log-in screen yesterday, the "!" was there. This morning it wasn't. Would it be possible for a "slightly pregnant" Windows to do an auto update in such state?

Who know what evil lurks in the hearts of ... Redmond!


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Many Windows 7 Update will not completely install until the computer is either rebooted or shut down and started again.

I surly don't understand what this means. Their is no such thing as a little of Windows 7 booted and running. Windows 7 is either running or it isn't running. Kind of like you can't be almost pregnant.

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I have to leave a small windows presence loaded to run the wi-fi card and the program I use to create my local network, Connectif
Yeah. I agree. As I said way back in my first post, "I don't know why Connectify and my card keep working but apparently Windows' bare bones keeps those things running which suits me well." It totally baffles me. Except that it does work. The wi-fi card shows as having no network but it has to be there for Connectify to work. That may or may not have bearing here.

It's a true oddity but it does appear that my Windows can be a little bit booted. Which it can't be but it is.

Is there any way of checking something to find out what might be running in that state?

Both of you, I do appreciate your trying to help me out here. I suspect it's taking a lot more of your and my time than it's likely worth but it's like an annoying itch. Maybe after a year when Windows 10 is no longer "free", my problem will go away? Sigh.

Thanks so much.

-G.
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08 Aug 2015   #10
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 
information is everything

Well thanks for posting that screenshot.

Pop into event viewer, Windows updates and look at the error code.
We can go from there.
ControlPanel>Admintools>eventViewer>Microsoft>windows>WindowsUpdate


Note have a look at the sticky for NOT installing W10.
Note 2 You can always hide any update. Right click on it set hide,
BUT as you are set to auto-update you will not see this option set to, either manual or do nothing.

ATTN Gokay, VM will never update unless you reboot.

Roy
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