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Windows 7: Trying to stop upgrade to Win 10 through Win 7 Update

13 Aug 2015   #11
Quisp

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 
Forced Windows 10 Upgrade (Solution)

First, let me say that one of my PCs with the same edition of Windows 7 as another did not try to upgrade to Windows 10. On that machine, "OSUpgradeInteractive" registry entry was not present. If this entry is present, then the following will stop Windows Update from forcing the Windows 10 Upgrade...

start registry editor (regedit.exe)

navigate to...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ WindowsUpdate \ OSUpgrade

change "OSUpgradeInteractive" value data to "0"

****Warning****
Do not make any changes in the registry if you are not sure you know what you are doing. You could potentially make your system unusable. Always backup your registry before making any changes!


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14 Aug 2015   #12
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

I am royally sick of this crap. They are trying to force it on a bunch of our machines at work. We are on a domain and good old MS swore they wouldn't do that. I have never been a MS basher, but I have become one now. Whatever idiots thought this would be a good idea ought to be fired.

In the meantime, I spend a lot of time sifting through every update for Win7 to make sure this garbage doesn't slip through. We have 200 computers on our domain. Multiply that by a 3GB download and it is a big problem.

I'm ready to turn updates clear off on my home machines. Thank goodness I've always been a "notify but don't install" guy or I would probably already be stuck with this junk. I haven't seen one do anything positive for me for ages. As for the security, well sorry. If I get infected it will be "restore image" time. If that infection gets passed along before I get to it, well too bad.

I skipped ME because it sucked. I skipped Vista because it sucked. I skipped 8 and 8.1 because I don't need a phone interface on my three-monitor setup at home. I don't even like the phone interface on my daggone phone. If I wanted a locked down "take-what-we-give-you-and-like-it" OS I would buy a stinking Mac.
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15 Aug 2015   #13
meridius21

Windows 7 HP & Pro 64 bit
 
 

The bottom line is that we paid for Windows 7 and not Windows 10. It's like someone coming along and taking your car away while saying here's the latest model, forget the old one.

It's all part of Microsoft's plan which is to copy business models of organisations such as Google (abc) and grab your data as well as trying to sell you as many products as possible while bombarding you with adverts. It looks like individual users and even businesses have now become victims of this wider game plan.
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15 Aug 2015   #14
Frog

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by meridius21 View Post
The bottom line is that we paid for Windows 7 and not Windows 10.
Only because it's offered as a free "upgrade". Anyone else will be paying for the privilege.
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17 Aug 2015   #15
MSWin7User

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

As mentioned already, meridius21, I'm afraid you already have some of the Win 10 update garbage installed. As ignatzatsonic said, those top 4 in your list are Windows 10 update patches. FYI, 2990214 (meant to enable you "to upgrade your computer from Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1) to a later version of Windows") was replaced by 3050265 (a June 2015 Windows Update Client update) and then 3065987, (a July 2015 Windows Update Client update).

There were actual improvements added to 3050265 that were not Windows 10 related, but I think most were for getting ready for installing later operating systems. BUT, they did add a positive thing related to Windows 10, a way to block later operating system related updates, "This update installs a new Group Policy object that enables you to block upgrades to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update." ref: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050265. I expect you would want the latest update, 3065987 (July) for any fixes. The original 2990214 was overbearing (and a little broken I think), but maybe after a few months of fixes they have it working OK.

I don't have any of those Windows Update Client updates installed on my PC and it seems to be working fine. All the Security Patches actually needed for Windows 7 are found. I always install the Security Patches, but I wait some number of days for others to find bugs in Microsoft's updates as well as identifying sneaky Win 10 related things installed by some updates.

Of the next group of 5, I'm afraid 3022345 and 3068708 are Windows 10 update related (adding a tracking service so "you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded." FYI, 3022345 was later replaced by 3068708 since '345 had problems. And 3065987 mentioned above. My system doesn't have any of those installed, either.

As meridius21 said, removing updates can be problematic. Although, there are ways to clean-up your PC's patch database on your system which can help.

Adding to the confusion is what Mark Phelps is saying about MS trying to force Win 10 upon us with sneaky methods. But they don't always change the patch number to do it. They will re-issue patches with both fixes and other changes. For instance, 2952664 has been changed many times. meridius21, I think that might be why you see it again, even if you have it in the Hidden list.

Here is a hint to clean-up your patch status (including Hidden list) as reported by the Windows Update control panel. At least it worked for me. Before I tried it, I took a snapshot of my list of Hidden patches. Then, I unhid all of them and clicked Check for Updates. It cleaned up allot because some of those patches were no longer needed. All patches will end up in Important or Optional sections. Then, for the patches I didn't want, I hid them again.

For Windows 7 users I recommend you NOT included "Recommended" updates in your Windows Update settings. That is, when the "Recommended" box is checked, it will put those updates (all of the Windows 10 garbage) into the "Important" section (along with real Important and Critical updates). So, keep it unchecked and both the Recommended and actual Optional updates will go into the "Optional" section. Damn confusing that; more of the sneakiness I guess.

Since Mainstream Support ended for Windows 7 on 13 January 2015, we are in the Extended Support phase for the operating system. Extended Support ends 14 January 2020; it basically only includes Security Updates. If you guys haven't already done it, consider changing your update settings in your Windows Update control panel. For the support schedule and related information see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle. Click the FAQs box to see useful information. Here is a searched link directly to a Windows 7 schedule:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search?sort=PN&alpha=Windows 7.

Here is how my system is set.


BTW, I have it set that only users with administrator privs can do updates. If you want others to do the updates, check the "Allow all users to install updates on this computer" box.
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18 Aug 2015   #16
meridius21

Windows 7 HP & Pro 64 bit
 
 

Many thanks for your advice. Before I read your post I actually decided to completely reinstall Windows 7 and block updates. This has not been an easy decision as I always prefer to have security updates but Microsoft have unfairly placed myself and many other users into a corner. My operating system is now running faster and better than ever as I also got the impression that code added into various updates would slow down an operating system that on its own is relatively speedy. This is a far from ideal solution but I just don't want to play games or take risks with Windows Update.

If I want to test Windows 10, I will do this as a clean install on another laptop and Microsoft would have been better offering users to test it on a virtual pc or through some sort of removable dual booting although I think this may have been quite complicated. Looking at other forums it appears as though users have had problems with the upgrade process and this is a far from ideal situation.
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11 Oct 2015   #17
ffinder

win7
 
 

THANK YOU ! ! IT WORKS ! !

All windows 7 updates proceeded as usual without
the highly irritating [downloading windows 10..] appearing first
before all other updates!

I was seriously considering in installing Kubuntu Linux..

I had enough of this Microsoft forcing their UGLY and invasive operating systems
down our throats.. [windows 8-10]

next.. will need a list of all spyware updates
that Microsoft already installed in my windows 7

Thanks again Quisp!

Wishing you all the best.

ff


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Quisp View Post

start registry editor (regedit.exe)

navigate to...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \ WindowsUpdate \ OSUpgrade

change "OSUpgradeInteractive" value data to "0"
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12 Oct 2015   #18
meridius21

Windows 7 HP & Pro 64 bit
 
 

From what I can see Quisp has been moving in the right direction with regedit changes and this seems the way to go, if you know what you are doing!

I have two laptops with different settings. 'A' has all Windows and Microsoft downloads, 'B' has only important Windows Downloads.

In regedit laptop 'A' is:

Code:
Key Name:          HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade
  Class Name:        <NO CLASS>
  Last Write Time:   12/10/2015 - 14:37
  Value 0
    Name:            ReservationsAllowed
    Type:            REG_DWORD
    Data:            0x2
   
  Value 1
    Name:            KickoffDownload
    Type:            REG_DWORD
    Data:            0
   
  Value 2
    Name:            KickoffSource
    Type:            REG_DWORD
    Data:            0
   
  Value 3
    Name:            Refresh
    Type:            REG_DWORD
    Data:            0x1
   
  Value 4
    Name:            AllowOSUpgrade
    Type:            REG_DWORD
    Data:            0
In laptop 'B' it is:

Code:
Key Name:          HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade\State
  Class Name:        <NO CLASS>
  Last Write Time:   12/10/2015 - 13:05
  Value 0
    Name:            OSUpgradeState
    Type:            REG_DWORD
    Data:            0x1
   
  Value 1
    Name:            OSUpgradeStateTimeStamp
    Type:            REG_SZ
    Data:            2015-10-12 11:05:38
At the moment these settings appear to be blocking Windows 10 upgrade although I am not entirely sure why.

On a technical point I am not sure I fully understand binary as this has been explained as:

0 = Enable (True)
1 = Disable (False)

so I would have imagined that in laptop 'A'
Code:
AllowOSUpgrade
should be '1' but I saw this in another post as '0', which it now is, and this appears to be blocking the upgrade option to Windows 10.
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