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Windows 7: KB3035583 Reappeared After Being Hidden

13 Oct 2015   #21
Wixi

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Thanks for the info, UsernameIssues,

From what I can remember the admin identified a code line reading
Code:
KickoffDownload    REG_DWORD/    0x1
as being responsible for Windows 10 trying to download/install. After changing this via Command Promp Windows 10 stopped trying to download.

I'm not sure if I'll attempt the above changes but will keep them in mind if I decide to as I'm not comfortable with registry editing.


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13 Oct 2015   #22
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Be very watchful. Today KB2952664 was reissued again. Had to hide it again.
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13 Oct 2015   #23
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

There appear to be an interesting Group Policy setting:

go to Local Computer Policy -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Windows Components -> Windows Update.
Look up "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update".

Apparently, enabling this policy will prevent future upgrade offers. Whether or not this means that you will not receive the updates related to the upgrade remains to be seen.
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14 Oct 2015   #24
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
There appear to be an interesting Group Policy setting:

go to Local Computer Policy -> Administrative Templates -> System -> Windows Components -> Windows Update.
Look up "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update".

Apparently, enabling this policy will prevent future upgrade offers. Whether or not this means that you will not receive the updates related to the upgrade remains to be seen.
Ok, rant time (and I'm not specifically picking on unifex since this is a common help issue).

Posts like this drive me insane because the poster has assumed the reader will know certain things. In this case, I was looking in "Search programs and files" for Local Computer Policy and I couldn't find squat until it dawned on me that "Group Policy" was the first part of the file path given (on my computer, it was actually listed as "Edit group policy" but, at least, "Group Policy" in the search box still found it). Then I ran into another problem with the file path: there are two headings—"Computer Configuration" and User Configuration"—with "Administrative Templates" in them. Both contain separate folders for "System" and "Windows Components". Unlike the file path above, neither of the "System" folders had "Windows Components" in them.

I checked both "Windows Components" folders and found "Windows Updates" in each one but neither had "Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows through Windows Update" in them. At that point I said...well, never mind what I said; I just gave up.

People, PLEASE! When giving directions, give complete, accurate, detailed directions; do NOT assume the reader knows anything, no matter how obvious it may seem to you. I'm fairly knowledgeable around computers but that doesn't mean I don't have holes in that knowledge (based on the number of holes I have in my knowledge, I'm "holier" than the Pope!). One of the most frustrating things I deal with on many fora is trying to get geeks to give me simple, accurate, complete directions on how to do something. Invariably, a step gets left out or a step will say something like "format the framis" but not tell me how to format the flamin' framis. When I point that out, I almost always get responses such as "I thought everyone knew that", "you should have known that", or the really classic one, "If you don't know that, you shouldn't be messing around with computers).

Rant over. You are now being returned to your regularly scheduled thread.
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14 Oct 2015   #25
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Lady Fitzgerald,
Local Group Policy Editor - Open
Will show you how to open the interface of interest.
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14 Oct 2015   #26
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Lady Fitzgerald,
Local Group Policy Editor - Open
Will show you how to open the interface of interest.
I figured out how to get into it (using search is simpler than trying to remember a command). My complaint is the post didn't specify how to get there, instead assuming everyone would already know. In addition, the file path given in the directions is faulty.
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15 Oct 2015   #27
RedIndy

w7
 
 

Yesterday I received a bunch of updates for W7.
With those came updates that were recently hidden.
KB3035583 was one of those and I hid it again.
But there were also other files that seem to be doing the same thing, forcing W10 to be installed.
I noticed that only after they had installed.

Now I understand that these are new versions of the same update, forcing W7 users to upgrade to W10.

After installing those remaining updates all access to files on my C: drive was blocked!
Access denied!

Only after doing a system restore, with which all updates were rolled back, I was able to get into my files again.

So now I am wondering if this happened as a cause of me hiding the W 10 upgrade or was there any other cause, I did not install anything myself for quite some time so this must have been caused by one of the new updates, but how to find out which one??

I think what MS is doing here is very annoying and wrong to say the least.
After they let Windows XP die, I was forced to buy a new W7 and now they are forcing a new version onto me of which I clearly stated that I do not want, even for free.

Seems MS has completely gone demagogic!!!

They want to take over our PCs completely and there seems to be no way to let them know that WE don't want that to happen.

It is my PC and I paid for it and the stuff that is running on there!

I think there should be more solid protests against what MS is doing to our PCs!!!

Also see article in Forbes Magazine about this issue.

If anybody can tell me what caused the problem with accessing my C: drive and if there is a relation to me declining upgrade to W10, please let me know!

Thanks in advance!

RI.
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15 Oct 2015   #28
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RedIndy View Post
Yesterday I received a bunch of updates for W7.
With those came updates that were recently hidden.
KB3035583 was one of those and I hid it again.
But there were also other files that seem to be doing the same thing, forcing W10 to be installed.
I noticed that only after they had installed.

Now I understand that these are new versions of the same update, forcing W7 users to upgrade to W10.
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Also see article in Forbes Magazine about this issue.
I did not see where that Forbes article mentioned MS "forcing W10 to be installed" or "forcing W7 users to upgrade to W10". MS downloaded about 6GB of W10 installation files - even if you did not want them - even if you had to pay for the bandwidth. That was pretty dumb on MS's part, but MS did not automatically update the OS to W10.

I have no idea why your file access changed.
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15 Oct 2015   #29
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

I found this batchfile on the 'Net:

@echo on
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083710 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:3012973 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /norestart /quiet
wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /norestart /quiet
pause

Afterwards, run Windows Disk Cleanup utilitiy, it will take a little time.
During closedown and next startup -- Windows will finish cleanup of the removed KBs and related files.
Repelling this Telemetry invasion will be an ongoing process, from WU vigilance [hiding KBs] to doing the above maybe once monthly.
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15 Oct 2015   #30
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by meebers View Post
I can no longer hide these updates on my W7 Machine. The ones I hid before no longer appear in the restore list. Now my W8.1 laptop will no longer allow me to hide them either...
I just now noticed this. Please tell me more -- I'd like to learn how the problem acts on your computers; perhaps we all can cough up a solution or two after we hunt down the cause[s].
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