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Windows 7: Delay for displaying installed updates + update schedule

23 Oct 2015   #11
Clairvaux

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
You don't want to use Disk Cleanup until your updates are done.
Do you mean Disk Cleanup might make more responsive a computer just freshly installed ? Is it advisable to run it after installation updates ?


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24 Oct 2015   #12
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
I usually would after making sure no more updates are available
Some updates might return after using disk cleanup/ updates cleanup but it's only 1 or 2 but usually the updates cleanup will show several 2-3gb of outdated updates.

Also if you use More options and you can get rid of all of the new restore points from updating and only keep the very last.
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25 Oct 2015   #13
Clairvaux

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)
 
 

Thanks, ThrashZone. I did find around 2 Gb down there, mainly from backups of updated updates. However, after due thought, I'm not erasing them just now, and I certainly keep all the restore points I can. As a matter of fact, I've just increased my restore allowance to 20 % of my available space (I think).

Space is free once you've bought your disk, and there's still practically nothing on this particular PC's two 500 Gb disks. I can understand there may be some speed issues when you're close to a full disk, but that's certainly not my case.

I really don't think those 2 Gb safety leftovers can be the reason why different things that used to be immediate with my previous, old and otherwise clunky install, now take several seconds or tens of seconds.

By the way, I've just discovered how badly designed that disk cleaning tool is. I almost fell for it, so here is a tip : when you open the Properties dialog box of your disk, then click on Disk Cleanup, Windows looks for obsolete files, and opens a Disk Cleanup box with a list of files and two buttons : View Files and Clean up System Files. View Files opens the location of the selected file under Windows Explorer, but what will happen if you click on Clean up System Files, which has a big UAC warning logo on it ? It will wipe the selected files on the list above, right ? With no further warning ? Wrong !

Clean up System Files
does not clean anything : it just does a further search... for more files... which are deemed to be "system files". So even if you don't want to clean up the files you're looking at, you absolutely need to click on that mystery button... because Windows might find more files (the big Windows Updates leftovers are only detected at that later stage). Even if you do want to clean the files you're presented with at that first stage, don't click on the OK button now, because you will have done only half the job.

Also, suppose you guess correctly that Clean up System Files does a further search, and you want to erase this first batch of files Windows is showing you, and you select them to that effect, will clicking on Clean up System Files erase the first batch, and look for more ? Or will it just look for more ? There's no way of knowing.

Well, actually it leaves them alone for the time being, and the files found in the first stage will be shown together with those found in the second stage (if any), allowing you finally to make the informed decision that you should have been able to make right from the start.

Stellar GUI job, Microsoft ! And don't get me started on the customization of the Start Menu, which I have just thoroughly experimented...
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25 Oct 2015   #14
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Approving the uac does nothing but allow windows to search for the files,
The final approval is after both searches and you check what ever boxes you want to remove then Okay on the bottom.
Otherwise click on cancel.
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25 Oct 2015   #15
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Clairvaux I'm not understanding your post #13.

Once you start Windows 7 Disk Cleanup all it does is checks things and gives you a list of recommended things that can be removed safely.

At that time you can pick and choose what you want to remove if anything.

If you don't want to remove anything, just close the program.
That's it. Done.

Using Disk Cleanup was just a recommendation. If you don't want to do it, don't it is your computer.
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26 Oct 2015   #16
Clairvaux

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Clairvaux I'm not understanding your post #13. Using Disk Cleanup was just a recommendation. If you don't want to do it, don't it is your computer.
Nothing against you, Layback Bear. It was just an anti-Microsoft rant, because I think their GUI on Disk cleanup is rotten. Also, I thought that sharing my mistake, and what I learned from it, might benefit others.

Thank you for your recommendation.
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