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Windows 7: Update KB3102810 - is this one safe? useful?

06 Nov 2015   #11
wben353

Win 7 Home Premium x64/Linux Lite 2.6 x64
 
 

3 are definitely telemetry, they others questionable, all optional.

I try to keep up on the spyware, of which, I'm not a fan.


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06 Nov 2015   #12
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

wben353, as MRCS asked, what is the rationale for having KB2970228 on that list?

Just asking...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MRCS View Post
wben353 -

Just to be clear, are you saying that KB2970228 has telemetry?

Update to support the new currency symbol for the Russian ruble in Windows
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2970228
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06 Nov 2015   #13
wben353

Win 7 Home Premium x64/Linux Lite 2.6 x64
 
 

Not saying it does.
It's been identified as Questionable on several sites, since Microsoft hasn't clearly defined what it is.
It is optional as well as the others. When it doubt leave it out. Till I get more info on it I'm hiding update.

KB3102810 according to Microsoft is supposed to fix slow Windows Updates & high CPU usage.

If I come across more detailed info on any of the KB's listed I'll post it.
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07 Nov 2015   #14
Deonzar

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Thanx wben353...even this pensioner now knows what to do!
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07 Nov 2015   #15
MRCS

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wben353 View Post
Not saying it does.
I don't want to start anything here, but it seemed to me that is what you were saying.
"a list of telemetry KB's...Those are the only temetry KB's that I know of."

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wben353 View Post
Microsoft hasn't clearly defined what it is.
Granted, MS obfuscates many of their patches, but 2970228 seemed pretty straight forward: new currency symbol for the Russian ruble. Did you, or someone else, scan the KB and find code for telemetry? That would be frightening if you did.
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07 Nov 2015   #16
wben353

Win 7 Home Premium x64/Linux Lite 2.6 x64
 
 

Here's some addition information which may answer your questions. Personally, I have hidden all the Questionable updates, (they're optional at this time)

There are currently 4 that are Definitely telemetry.

KB3022345 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
KB3068708 (replaces KB3022345) Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
KB3075249 Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7
KB3080149 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry

Info World

PC World

Super User

Ghacks

Just to name a few sites on issue.

Google it & see what you find.

Please post back your results/opinions.

Some of Microsoft's preinstalled not KB programs are reported to track you too.

See Super User

Hope this helps.
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07 Nov 2015   #17
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

KB2970228 has nothing to do with Windows 10. If you look at the files included in that update it includes no 10/telemetry files. Just more paranoia surrounding irrelevant updates.

KB3102810 is yet another update to the Windows update client and yes this can download the windows 10 installer if you have your updates set to Automatic.
Set it to "check for updates but let me choose" and also untick the box "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important".

These are all the 10/telemetry updates so far (not including the one mentioned above):

http://www.sevenforums.com/general-d...ml#post3168528
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07 Nov 2015   #18
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MRCS View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wben353 View Post
Not saying it does.
I don't want to start anything here, but it seemed to me that is what you were saying.
"a list of telemetry KB's...Those are the only temetry KB's that I know of."

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wben353 View Post
Microsoft hasn't clearly defined what it is.
Granted, MS obfuscates many of their patches, but 2970228 seemed pretty straight forward: new currency symbol for the Russian ruble. Did you, or someone else, scan the KB and find code for telemetry? That would be frightening if you did.
I see nothing to indicate that KB2970228 is tracking related. It probably made some list because early versions of the patch caused problems. There have been 7 versions of KB2970228. The latest version is stable.
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07 Nov 2015   #19
MRCS

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
 
 

While I like to make my own decisions on which patches I may not need/want (with the help of Susan Bradley's Patch Watch column over on Windows Secrets), I do like to check other people's lists in case I installed one that was more than I bargained for. The best list I've found so far is in this post.

Btw, it may soon get harder to accomplish what we're trying to do here. There's more info in the first section of
this article.
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07 Nov 2015   #20
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

It won't get anymore difficult for you if you untick the box "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important". Although it will become more difficult for users who have them set to Automatic. Not sure why anyone would want it set like that. I haven't done that since XP.
MS track record of pushing out the occasional buggy update has been getting a little worse over the past year. I always wait a week to see if there is any bad feedback about them.

I really don't understand the article in the first link. It states updates to uninstall for 10/telemetry yet includes others that have nothing to do with those?
People need to be careful with some of these articles as soon they'll be telling people not to install security updates. Some articles are useful, some just seem outright paranoid

But anyway, the one that's in question is best to avoid if you don't want 10.
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