Once and for all...'Important/Critical' updates ?

gizmo78 said:

Thanks, Painter. Yes, I'd have liked to hear from those with experience on the subject. I might point out to you [maybe others], Invincea bought Sandboxie from it's Israeli author, who designed it. S/B is an installed program which 'clones' program files from the installed C Drive folder(s) themselves to the sandbox folder, where the forced program, ANY forced program, in clone form, operates. This is not a 'plug' for S/B, just an explanation for why I don't fear 'zero day' stuff. My Son-in-Law professionally uses a far more complicated and 'vendor regulated' V/M, but I don't know a thing about it or any of the others.

We shall see... T'anks Ag'in

Yes, SBIE is an excellent product and I have used it for years. i never browse without it (I have it forced in FF). Great for isolating USBs too. It might be a good idea if you considered EMET as an extra layer of protection when you turn off WU. It is not complicated.

"G" and Painter: Nope, not the least bit paranoid, but SECURITY is the only thing that I find real interest in...and in which a darned sparse 'software' background hampers me. Thus...here I am on this Forum! "G", your posting is exactly the type of info I've been looking for...and I get some of it.

I was initially impressed by listening to an interview with Ronen Tzur, and I 'took the bait' for Sandboxie, hook, line and sinker.

After my last reformat of a WIN7 computer with a pretty decent i7 processor, taking almost three hours to do the Download Dance, I asked WHY? Been chasing it ever since.... [Obviously I have too much time. Don't play in traffic and YOU will get here too]

Giz

gizmo78 said:

"G" and Painter: Nope, not the least bit paranoid, but SECURITY is the only thing that I find real interest in...and in which a darned sparse 'software' background hampers me. Thus...here I am on this Forum! "G", your posting is exactly the type of info I've been looking for...and I get some of it.

I was initially impressed by listening to an interview with Ronen Tzur, and I 'took the bait' for Sandboxie, hook, line and sinker.

After my last reformat of a WIN7 computer with a pretty decent i7 processor, taking almost three hours to do the Download Dance, I asked WHY? Been chasing it ever since.... [Obviously I have too much time. Don't play in traffic and YOU will get here too]

Giz

Yes. Windows Update is important. If you are worried about Microsoft's telemetry and surveillance, I would introduce to you a utility known as "DWS", one of my favorite tools among the one I just learned about with GWX Control Panel, and I have a large batch script I have compiled to attack the GWX module and prevent GWX from affecting Windows 7 - among other telemetry updates to be removed as well. Do you think it's worth making a thread to share?

Destroy Windows Spying - Windows spying removal tool

It contains a list of Telemetry suspected updates, settings, tasks and whatnot that Windows does not require, and surveillance setting removal which is all configurable.

"Do you think it's worth making a thread to share? " Boy, you got me! From what I've picked up on Windows Weekly it sounds like the telemetry/surveilance stuff is a WIN TEN issue; at least that's how I heard it.

GWX hasn't bothered ME yet as I manually got my updates and LOOKED at each; none saying a word about WIN10 [yet]. My Sister HAS collected the little icon, but I told her to JUST DON'T CLICK ON THE $$$$$$$ THING. I think if it ever sneaked by me, that's what I would do....but now, on THIS computer, ain't none of that jazz coming in!

So far I haven't felt a lack of anything..........

Giz

gizmo78 said:

"Do you think it's worth making a thread to share? " Boy, you got me! From what I've picked up on Windows Weekly it sounds like the telemetry/surveilance stuff is a WIN TEN issue; at least that's how I heard it.

GWX hasn't bothered ME yet as I manually got my updates and LOOKED at each; none saying a word about WIN10 [yet]. My Sister HAS collected the little icon, but I told her to JUST DON'T CLICK ON THE $$$$$$$ THING. I think if it ever sneaked by me, that's what I would do....but now, on THIS computer, ain't none of that jazz coming in!

So far I haven't felt a lack of anything..........

Giz

You're gravely mistaken. Microsoft has attempted to survey Windows 7 users as well, I'm surprised you had not known about it.



That's my anti-surveillance toolbox, and it gives Windows a ever so slight performance boost which is normal.

Keep it on manual update, Google up each update, and make sure the hotfixes are hotfixes.

'Can't argue with that, "G". Wow. Oh, well, it does say, "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" in the KB table you show.

I'm afraid 'DWS' is over my head...sorry

Nope; nobody ever surveyed me. Maybe that is for guys that buy the O.S., not OEM on a factory computer?

Giz

gizmo78 said:

'Can't argue with that, "G". Wow. Oh, well, it does say, "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" in the KB table you show.

I'm afraid 'DWS' is over my head...sorry

Nope; nobody ever surveyed me. Maybe that is for guys that buy the O.S., not OEM on a factory computer?

Giz

Well then it seems that I am the paranoid one. I will go and make a thread on Removing Windows Surveillance from your system, including GWX. I'm pretty sure people would be interested on it.

THANKS FOR **ALL** THE INPUTS. Indeed this Forum WAS more productive than others, on this topic.

Best to All....

Giz

ThrashZone said:

Hi,
To date there has only been 1 Important update associated to win-10 and that was KB3112343
Everything else has been classified as recommended which might show up in the Important section if the windows updates setting box is checked to allow recommended updates to be installed the same way as Important updates.

Otherwise everything win-10 related even the telemetry ones would of been placed in the Optional section.
So ignoring all updates is a pretty wild and not at all recommended no pun intended
Important/ critical ones should of course be researched but should be installed eventually
The only one I've hid is the one I posted earlier because there is nothing to monitor if I never intent to upgrade to 10 on the machines

Hmmm... Interesting... I was just about to ask about this very topic. If the "receive recommended updates the same as important" box is unchecked, the 'recommended' & optional updates get lumped together under optional updates. But when the above box IS checked, the 'recommended' updates show up under important updates. So, are any of the 'recommended' updates actually important, regarding system security, or not?