Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: KB Updates Override Previous Privacy Settings For Sharing Telemetry

27 Jan 2016   #1
remm

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 
KB Updates Override Previous Privacy Settings For Sharing Telemetry

For those who don't mind sending telemetry to MS, skip this post. For all others...

I happened to be in Task Scheduler for something completely unrelated, and noticed MS had setup tasks to send telemetry about my computer to MS, even though I had opted out of doing so when I installed W7. These tasks were located in the "Customer Experience Improvement Program" folder under Microsoft/Windows branch in the Task Scheduler Library tree. Digging into this, it turns out a KB update issued 4th quarter 2015 ignores your privacy settings and sets up tasks to send telemetry anyway. (See Forbes article link below.)

Forbes Welcome

To check this on my machines, I went to the original setting for CEIP and saw it was indeed set to NOT participate... you can see by going to Control Panel -> Action Center -> click hyperlink at left to "Change Action Center settings", then in the new window, look at the bottom for the hyperlink that says "Customer Experience Improvement Program setting" ... and see if it is set to NOT participate (as mine was).

Now go into Task Scheduler and into the folder of the same name under MS/Windows... and see if there aren't 2 or 3 enabled tasks... in the description in the lower part of the window, you will see the tasks are for CEIP and involve sending telemetry.

After disabling those tasks, I also found three other folders setup to send telemetry, apparently (as per the article above and others sources I read) from other KB updates around the same time. These additional tasks were in the "Application Experience" folder and "Autochk" folders. I also disabled those tasks.

Afterward I spent 30 minutes hunting down each offending KB and uninstalling them.

I realize this is a non-issue for some people, but I don't appreciate MS going behind my back to install what is basically spyware without being transparent and offering an opt-out.

AFAIC W7 has all its major bugs worked out, and it runs fine on my hardware. I will not be updating anymore, unless I run into a specific problem in the future and download a specific patch to fix that problem. MS's "updates" at this point have essentially become the kind of exploits I update to patch!

I use Sandboxie so have no worries of viruses. And I won't waste time at every update cycle investigating each patch when they fail to describe exploits like these anyway... instead they use vague, general language b/c they don't WANT to reveal what the patch is really for.

MS has always had a horrid privacy record, but now they aren't even pretending to care about their customers' rights to opt-out of data-gathering. I guess we all shoulda seen this coming.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
30 Jan 2016   #2
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Yep not sure which updates you uninstalled but these are the updates I have avoided
Not much to monitor if one doesn't intend on upgrading to 10 for at least the most important is 2 machines are not compatible


Attached Images
KB Updates Override Previous Privacy Settings For Sharing Telemetry-10-related.jpg 
My System SpecsSystem Spec
30 Jan 2016   #3
remm

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Hey TZ,

Thanks, I was missing a few of those, but checking cmd->run as admin->

WMIC QFE | FIND "KBXXXXXX"

I didn't have the ones I was missing installed. (For future readers, running that command will tell you if the KB is installed and if so, on what day it was installed. Knowing the date makes it easier to find in the list of installed KBs... so you can right-click->uninstall it.)

Adding those few KBs to my X-List anyway, I noticed your list had a couple missing from the Wilder's list (and mine). So the entire lot for W7-64 so far seems to be:

KB3035583
KB2990214
KB3022345
KB3068708
KB2952664
KB3075249
KB3080149
KB2999226
KB3013531
KB3021917
KB3112343

However, for those continuing to update W7, the above list should be considered a work in progress, as MS will almost certainly release more of these, making patch Tuesday, patch "check every new update" Tuesday. But since I am not updating W7 anymore (nor ever upgrading to W10), and can migrate my current system to any new hardware in the future, thereby avoiding having to go through the update process ever again... my days of worrying about how MS is exploiting my system behind my back have been reduced from a roar to a watchful eye for any patches installed long ago that haven't yet been uncovered. However, combing through Task Scheduler, all seems ok now, providing telemetry processes would utilize TS.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

Reply

 KB Updates Override Previous Privacy Settings For Sharing Telemetry




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Is these January updates safe and withou telemetry or W10 upgrade?
Hello, before week Microsoft released these January updates for Windows 7: KB3108664 KB3109560 KB3110329 KB3121212 KB3121918 KB3123479 KB3124000
Windows Updates & Activation
Previous updates disabled my CPU and I want to disable future updates
Until about 3 weeks ago, my Dell laptop was set to download and install Windows updates automatically. It did so, periodically. But I noticed that about 3 weeks ago, around January 20, 2014, updates were downloading and installing daily. At least three days in a row. One such update completely...
Performance & Maintenance
Windows 7 Home Prem. x 64 reverts to previous settings
Hi all, First post here and not sure if this is the right forum. (crossing fingers)! It seems that the first Monday of the month, my system resets back to the date that MS pushed out IE9 to my PC and installed. This brings back the 'old' desktop and settings. Each time this happens, I...
General Discussion


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:25.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App