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Windows 7: Beware KB3139929

11 Mar 2016   #41
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I suspect that MS may have quietly pulled the banner after the uproar it created. I'm not downloading any updates until tomorrow after I first make an image. I'll do all of them except KB3139929, make another image, then see what happens after I download and install the little bugger.

I really don't care if it appears only if one goes to msn.com since I never go there; I can't use the site because it insists I have to have ALL my cookies enabled, not just theirs. Ain't gonna happen, no way, no how!


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11 Mar 2016   #42
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I get this in a new tab and I do not have 3123862 or 3139929 installed so it can't be down to either of those updates.
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11 Mar 2016   #43
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
I get this in a new tab and I do not have 3123862 or 3139929 installed so it can't be down to either of those updates.
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So much for my theory.
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11 Mar 2016   #44
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
I get this in a new tab and I do not have 3123862 or 3139929 installed so it can't be down to either of those updates.
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So much for my theory.
Well it seems that we need to only be concerned with "New Tab" page and not opening msn home page in a new tab.

Quote from: Microsoft slips Windows 10 upgrade ads into Internet Explorer security patch | PCWorld

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As Woody Leonhard at InfoWorld first reported, this update will supposedly put a blue banner on the IE11 new tab page that says, “Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10.” ExtremeTech points out this is not the same as the blue banner that pops up when you visit sites like MSN.com recommending an upgrade to Windows 10.
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11 Mar 2016   #45
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
I get this in a new tab and I do not have 3123862 or 3139929 installed so it can't be down to either of those updates.
Attachment 383297
That popup appears on any browser if you don't use an Adblocker. I thought it might be exclusive to IE but it popped up in chrome when I disable Adblock. It's only the elusive new tab banner that appears to be linked to the patches.
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11 Mar 2016   #46
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
It's only the elusive new tab banner that appears to be linked to the patches.
Agreed. I don't see it and don't have those two updates installed.
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11 Mar 2016   #47
Seffrid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I suspect that MS may have quietly pulled the banner after the uproar it created. I'm not downloading any updates until tomorrow after I first make an image. I'll do all of them except KB3139929, make another image, then see what happens after I download and install the little bugger.

I really don't care if it appears only if one goes to msn.com since I never go there; I can't use the site because it insists I have to have ALL my cookies enabled, not just theirs. Ain't gonna happen, no way, no how!
I know that accords with your normal timetable for installing updates, i.e the Saturday after Patch Tuesday, but I do think this month might be one of those times when it's worth waiting a little longer. I'm personally waiting on at least another Patch Watch article from Susan Bradley at Windows Secrets as well as the further recommendations of Woody Leonhard at Ask Woody. Even allowing for the fact that you're making an image, this seems to be a month that could just turn out to be a real game-changer. As such, I'd prefer caution over backup. Of course, it could turn out to be a damp squib, but only time will tell - and not by tomorrow.
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11 Mar 2016   #48
Painter

W7Pro/64
 
 

In the KB3139929 description it does say that the nag for W10 was only destined for some computers, so MS may have chosen a small group of users for a controlled test. Maybe more than this KB was in play. I am just trying to make sense of why there is no verification of the nag banner after the update. I never use IE, so I do not care, however the significance of the situation is a non-security payload hidden inside a security update. It gives me bad karma.


" Since launching Windows 10, our number-one customer support request has been “how do I get my upgrade?” We’ve been using notifications from the task bar to inform people when their upgrade is ready. We are evolving our notifications to be more approachable and hopefully clear, and will continue to test new things in different markets around the world. This is part of that effort. Users that have turned off the GWX app or disabled notifications in settings will not see this recent change, nor will Windows Professional users." MS spokesperson

Microsoft adds 'non-security updates' to security patches • The Register
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11 Mar 2016   #49
CarlSD

Win 7 Professional 64 (Main PC)/Win 7 Home Premium 32 (Laptop)
 
 

Hi, Painter.

I was just about to post about that Register article but you beat me to it.

Love the comments about that article - especially the second one.
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11 Mar 2016   #50
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Painter View Post
"...Users that have turned off the GWX app or disabled notifications in settings will not see this recent change, nor will Windows Professional users."
That could explain why so many people are not seeing the banner. I should be safe since I don't even have the upgrade downgrade updates installed, have GWX control Panel installed, and am running Ultimate on my desktop. I haven't updated my notebooks in a few months (and won't until I need them) but it will be interesting to see what happens when I do since they are running Home Premium, although I do have GWX Control Panel installed on them and haven't installed any Win 10 downgrade related updates.
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