Beware KB3139929

Sky Ranch · 10 Mar 2016

woodyleonhard said:

HelloItsMeAgain said:

I think you need KB3123862 installed in addition to KB3146449 via the IE11 security update to get the banner to pop up when opening a new tab. I'm guessing Woody's problem in replicating the behavior is not having W10-related KB3123862 installed, which appeared sometime last week, and what I assume was consequently hidden.

So, even if you downloaded the IE11 cumulative update it won't trigger the banner when opening a new tab.

Thanks for the suggestion! I've been looking high and low for a screenshot of this phenomenon. Lots of people have sent me pictures of msn.com throwing up (I use the term intentionally) a "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10" ad. But msn.com has been running those forever.

I tried installing KB 3123862, as you recommend, and haven't seen an ad on a new tab yet.

I asked Microsoft about it and got the usual "we have nothing further to say" response. Not unexpected.

I'm still looking! Please, if any of you see a "Get Windows 10" ad on a new tab, shoot a picture.

I'm wondering if the sequence of installing KB3123862 and IE11 Cumulative Security update with the attached KB3146449 may have something to do whether users get this mysterious blue banner.

Perhaps when initiating Window Update, it scans and checks to see if KB3123862 is already installed, and if present it selectively includes KB3146449 as part of the IE11 Cumulative update.

I guess the only way of testing this theory would be to uninstall this month's IE11 Cumulative update and then manually check again for Windows Update with KB3123862 already installed.

P.S. Thanks for taking on the role of guinea pig on behalf of all of us who are not ready to upgrade to W10.

Viscon · 10 Mar 2016

HelloItsMeAgain said:

woodyleonhard said:

HelloItsMeAgain said:

I think you need KB3123862 installed in addition to KB3146449 via the IE11 security update to get the banner to pop up when opening a new tab. I'm guessing Woody's problem in replicating the behavior is not having W10-related KB3123862 installed, which appeared sometime last week, and what I assume was consequently hidden.

So, even if you downloaded the IE11 cumulative update it won't trigger the banner when opening a new tab.

Thanks for the suggestion! I've been looking high and low for a screenshot of this phenomenon. Lots of people have sent me pictures of msn.com throwing up (I use the term intentionally) a "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10" ad. But msn.com has been running those forever.

I tried installing KB 3123862, as you recommend, and haven't seen an ad on a new tab yet.

I asked Microsoft about it and got the usual "we have nothing further to say" response. Not unexpected.

I'm still looking! Please, if any of you see a "Get Windows 10" ad on a new tab, shoot a picture.

I'm wondering if the sequence of installing KB3123862 and IE11 Cumulative Security update with the attached KB3146449 may have something to do whether users get this mysterious blue banner.

Perhaps when initiating Window Update, it scans and checks to see if KB3123862 is already installed, and if present it selectively includes KB3146449 as part of the IE11 Cumulative update.

I guess the only way of testing this theory would be to uninstall this month's IE11 Cumulative update and then manually check again for Windows Update with KB3123862 already installed.

P.S. Thanks for taking on the role of guinea pig on behalf of all of us who are not ready to upgrade to W10.

This might be actually true since I haven't installed KB3123862 and there's no trace of KB3146449 in my system either. Looks like IE11 cumulative didn't trigger KB3146449 adware here.

Ranger4 · 10 Mar 2016

Having read this Thread, I decided to check whether I had the GWX folder back in my System 32 section in Windows & sure enough it is there again.

The worrying part this time is that you can't delete it as it's locked & "You need permission to perform this action."

I have deleted the GWX settings in the Registry & have run the 10 Forum suggestion as well & the GWX folder still can't be deleted.

It was installed on the 24 Feb & is the latest KB3035583. I will uninstall that again & hide it when it comes back.

Update.

After installing KB3035583, rebooting & then checking for Updates again it reappeared so I have hidden it again & lo & behold the GWX folder in Windows, System 32 has disappeared.

Callender · 10 Mar 2016

[QUOTE=Brds7t7;3226387]I'm beginning to think the culprit of this is KB3123862. The files it replaces are things like explorerframe.dll and shell32.dll. There has been no clear explanation on what it actually does and nobody seems to know.
I've installed all the latest updates including the IE11 updates and used IE (for the first time in years) and I don't see any Windows 10 banner. But I have skipped KB3123862.
Anyone else have that update installed? /QUOTE]

I don't have KB3123862

However I'm still offered KB3139929 although I did not install it.

Seffrid · 10 Mar 2016

Callendar, I don't believe the theory is that you'll only have KB3139929 offered if you already have KB3123862 installed, rather that KB3139929 will only activate the W10 banner if you also have KB3123862 installed.

Callender · 10 Mar 2016

Seffrid said:

Callendar, I don't believe the theory is that you'll only have KB3139929 offered if you already have KB3123862 installed, rather that KB3139929 will only activate the W10 banner if you also have KB3123862 installed.

Thanks for the explanation. I don't see that banner. There's some mention of it here:

Ultimate Outsider: GWX Control Panel Troubleshooting Guide

(Scroll down the page)

Some Microsoft sites (most notably MSN.com) have been displaying some very annoying advertisements for Windows 10 inside desktop web browsers for some time. I've seen the ads take two forms: A banner at the top of the browser window, and an even more annoying blue pop-over ad that you have to dismiss in order to see the web page underneath. Both ads say "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10."

Lady Fitzgerald · 10 Mar 2016

Callender said:

Seffrid said:

Callendar, I don't believe the theory is that you'll only have KB3139929 offered if you already have KB3123862 installed, rather that KB3139929 will only activate the W10 banner if you also have KB3123862 installed.

Thanks for the explanation. I don't see that banner. There's some mention of it here:

Ultimate Outsider: GWX Control Panel Troubleshooting Guide

(Scroll down the page)

Some Microsoft sites (most notably MSN.com) have been displaying some very annoying advertisements for Windows 10 inside desktop web browsers for some time. I've seen the ads take two forms: A banner at the top of the browser window, and an even more annoying blue pop-over ad that you have to dismiss in order to see the web page underneath. Both ads say "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10."

Could you quote that? I couldn't find it.

Callender · 10 Mar 2016

If you visit that link and use Ctrl+F in your browser to open the find dialog box you can probably find it by pasting the text:

Some Microsoft sites

Into the dialog box.

I'll quote it anyway!

From the article: Ultimate Outsider: GWX Control Panel Troubleshooting Guide

I USED GWX CONTROL PANEL BUT I'M STILL SEEING ADS FOR WINDOWS 10 IN MY WEB BROWSER
Some Microsoft sites (most notably MSN.com) have been displaying some very annoying advertisements for Windows 10 inside desktop web browsers for some time. I've seen the ads take two forms: A banner at the top of the browser window, and an even more annoying blue pop-over ad that you have to dismiss in order to see the web page underneath. Both ads say "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10."

As of version 1.7, GWX Control Panel does not yet have a way to prevent this, since the program focuses on system-wide Windows settings, not content delivered to your web browser. I am currently investigating whether there's a safe, non-invasive way to stop these ads, but I don't know yet whether it will be possible to fix with GWX Control Panel. For now, I recommend just avoiding MSN or any other Microsoft site that delivers the ads. (Change your browser start page if you're currently defaulting to MSN.)

Here are both types of ads I've seen at MSN:

GWX Control Panel is not yet able to inhibit the "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10" banner ads in Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, etc. but this ability might appear in a future release.

This is another example of the annoying MSN "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10" ads that GWX Control Panel does not (yet) fix. Investigation on how to stop this behavior is ongoing.

Lady Fitzgerald · 10 Mar 2016

Callender said:

If you visit that link and use Ctrl+F in your browser to open the find dialog box you can probably find it by pasting the text:

Some Microsoft sites

Into the dialog box.

I'll quote it anyway!

From the article: Ultimate Outsider: GWX Control Panel Troubleshooting Guide

I USED GWX CONTROL PANEL BUT I'M STILL SEEING ADS FOR WINDOWS 10 IN MY WEB BROWSER
Some Microsoft sites (most notably MSN.com) have been displaying some very annoying advertisements for Windows 10 inside desktop web browsers for some time. I've seen the ads take two forms: A banner at the top of the browser window, and an even more annoying blue pop-over ad that you have to dismiss in order to see the web page underneath. Both ads say "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10."

As of version 1.7, GWX Control Panel does not yet have a way to prevent this, since the program focuses on system-wide Windows settings, not content delivered to your web browser. I am currently investigating whether there's a safe, non-invasive way to stop these ads, but I don't know yet whether it will be possible to fix with GWX Control Panel. For now, I recommend just avoiding MSN or any other Microsoft site that delivers the ads. (Change your browser start page if you're currently defaulting to MSN.)

Here are both types of ads I've seen at MSN:

GWX Control Panel is not yet able to inhibit the "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10" banner ads in Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, etc. but this ability might appear in a future release.

This is another example of the annoying MSN "Microsoft recommends upgrading to Windows 10" ads that GWX Control Panel does not (yet) fix. Investigation on how to stop this behavior is ongoing.

Thank you!

Lady Fitzgerald · 11 Mar 2016

Golden said:

Lady Fitzgerald said:

Well, that is a new low for Microsoft What a bunch of miserable, misbegotten, "jerks" (I have much better terms but Mama told me not to use those words and forum rules forbid them)

Looks like the Thought Police has struck. Nothing was misspelled; Nigel just doesn't like my spelling of Microsoft.

Stop bleating Debbie.

Stop your braying.