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Windows 7: KB3138612 - Install or Hide?

28 Apr 2016   #11
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JohnA2 View Post

The standard Windows Update mechanism would honor the directive never to check for updates. Indeed, on my Windows Update screen, the date last checked for updates never gets automatically updated unless I do a manual check leading me to conclude that something else is going on with the windows update service....
I don't appear to have this problem.
I have "Important Updates" selected to
"Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them"
I can do a manual check but Windows does it automatically. I do need to look to see if Important / optional updates are available. I then look at the important updates and install after making a system image in case one of them causes problems.


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28 Apr 2016   #12
JohnA2

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
I don't appear to have this problem.
Thanks for letting me know. I previously had run the Microsoft Fixit on Windows Update unsuccessfully but because other diagnostics such as CheckSur reported no problems and I could do a Check Updates, I didn't think anything about it. So I backed out KB3138612 and this time was able to run the fixit successfully fixing three problems. I have reinstalled KB3138612 with no issues yet. My guess is that Windows Update must have had a lurking problem on my PC before installing KB3138612 and installing it in this condition just made the issue more obvious. Thanks for your help.
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28 Apr 2016   #13
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Yea it's just the March update client

I have read if KB3114323 which was a Important update is not installed you might see issue searching for updates
The one on this thread is a recommended update last I saw which would be listed as Important if your windows update settings were including recommended updates to be installed the same way as Important updates are.
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09 Jun 2016   #14
SevenOfNine

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 
Installation not recommended

Perhaps Microsoft changed the description of this update after this thread was created.

Microsoft states:

This update includes Windows Update support for Windows 10 updates (feature updates) that are distributed though WSUS (content released after May 1, 2016).

Source: https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3138612

In my opinion, this is a huge red flag, and consequently I don't recommend installing this update.
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09 Jun 2016   #15
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
One would only get windows 10 if someones update settings were mixing up recommended updates = "which is what windows 10 is classified as" with the real Important updates that are usually only security related.
Update clients also help find updates regardless of what they relate to because M$ is tweaking it's servers that deliver updates.

So the update client is fairly harmless it's peoples misunderstanding of the updates settings which is the problem really
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09 Jun 2016   #16
SevenOfNine

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Like many people, I've learned that I can no longer trust Microsoft. It's a shame.

When Microsoft states that this Windows 7 update (KB3138612) contains "support for Windows 10 updates (feature updates) that are distributed though WSUS" that makes it pretty clear that there is something in it specifically created to upgrade systems to Windows 10.

It's also unknown if it's collecting data to send back to Microsoft. According to Woody Leonhard, in regards to this update: The problem is that we simply don’t know – and won’t ever know – what info Microsoft is starting to collect from Windows 7.
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09 Jun 2016   #17
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
If you say so
I don't see it as some medieval update
As far as Woody goes he was banned quick around here
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09 Jun 2016   #18
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I've had "give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" unchecked for quite a while now so I think KB3138612 installed in March 2016 was deemed Important.
About this update:
"This update contains some improvements to Windows Update Client in Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1.

This update includes Windows Update support for Windows 10 updates (feature updates) that are distributed though WSUS (content released after May 1, 2016)"

As I said earlier it doesn't appear to have caused me any problems. I haven't had a single update to Windows 10 nag (Yet!).
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09 Jun 2016   #19
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I installed it when it was released and no problems for me. Also a search of microsoft ip addresses connected to reveals no problems.

KB3138612 - Install or Hide?-ms-connection-history.jpg

I will add that ip address to remapped routing table.

See post #27 here and the ones below:

Static Routes - Create or Remove


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09 Jun 2016   #20
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Always read the description of an update, if you don`t need it, hide it.

The only updates I would even consider important are security updates, .net frameworks etc, and they have to be scrutinized too.

All updates do is waste space on your ssd.
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