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Windows 7: Is there an accepted list of KB's to integrate into a base Win7-sp1?

16 Aug 2016   #1
SummGuy

Windows 98 32-bit
 
 
Is there an accepted list of KB's to integrate into a base Win7-sp1?

I've assembled from various sources my own list of "bad" kb's to avoid - 91 of them. Some of them are probably no longer offered by MS. There are supposedly 123 updates rolled into the 3125574 Convenience Rollup Package. Of the 123 updates that I believe are in 3125574, 15 of them are "bad" according to my list. So that leaves 108 as "good".


A base-install of Win-7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit will, today (mid-August 2016) come back with a list of 172 "Important Updates" and 67 "Optional Updates" (not including language packs) when it performs it's first update check. Of the combined 239 offered updates, only 50 match those in the 3125574 Convenience Rollup. Of those 50, only 4 (!) are in the "Important" list:


2786081 / 2798162 / 2868116 / 2929733


None of those 4 are what I consider "bad". Of the remaining 46 updates (which are in the Optional catagory) 8 of them are what I consider "bad":


2660075 / 2726535 / 3068708 / 3078667
3080149 / 3092627 / 3102429 / 3118401



Now regardless if I'm right about some of these being "bad", what I notice is the complete disconnect between the kb's in the rollup vs the KB's that MS is offering during the first update-check. Now whether, upon subsequent update-checks I would be offered more KB's that would end up giving me all the updates contained in the rollup, I don't know.


I have so far been working with whdownloader and it's various pre-made lists and have created win-7 sp1 installs with upwards of 577 integrated kb's (not including the 91 "bad" kb's).


Clearly there have been many kb's offered over time. Clearly that list is greatly reduced, at least in terms of what MS is offering right now to a "fresh" system.


Is there, at this point, an accepted list of "current" KB's, where all the superceded or depreciated or buggy KB's have been crossed off?


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16 Aug 2016   #2
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Guess it is time to set "Never check for updates"

Somebody else asked a similar albeit not the same question, I gave two MS web sites in that post, one or both may be of interest to you. While they do not give a list of "good" updates, "bad" updates, they will give you a systematic way to download only the KBs your research and the input of others "tell" you to download and use; and you will not have to be stuck using the [in][famous] Windows Update found in your icons notification tray.
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19 Aug 2016   #3
SummGuy

Windows 98 32-bit
 
 

Since there's been nobody coming forward to propose a list of basic KB updates for a stock/original Win-7 SP1 installation, here's the list that I've arrived at after installing Win-7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit on a system and then going through the windows-update process several times. I've downloaded all .net offerings and have installed dot-net 4.61 as well as IE10 and have installed the IE10 rollup (I'm not going to install IE11 until I know more about how they've handicapped it vs IE10). I'm looking at both "Important" and "Optional" updates, and not looking at the Language-pack section in the optional-update list. So with all that in mind:

In total, as of mid-August 2016, WindowsUpdate will offer a fresh Win-7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit system the opportunity to install 238 updates, patches and hotfixes.

Just for information sake, I have a repository of Win-7 x86 kb's (.msu's) that number over 700. So there several times more kb's that have been released for Win-7 that are currently being offered to a base-level installation.

Now I have my own list, assembled from various sources, of "bad" kb's that either cause problems or facilitate user telemetry or forced updating or prodding to update the system to Win-10. A few items in the bad list are simply too new (released less than a week ago) to know their status. This list has 99 entries, many of which are depreciated and no longer are offered during a windowsupdate session. But in looking at the 238 updates that MS is offering today, 24 of them are in my "bad" list. I have not installed them on my target / test system.



Here is the list of 238 KB's that WindowsUpdate will offer a new/fresh install of Win-7 Ultimate SP1 32-bit as of mid-August 2016. The list is separated into "good" and "bad" KB's. Whether or not the reader considers any particular KB as good or bad is up the them. First, the "good" KB's:



976902 2631813 2750841 2847927 2919469 3004361 3045685 3097989 3138962 3168965
982018 2640148 2758857 2852386 2929733 3004375 3046017 3101722 3139398 3170455
2479943 2647753 2761217 2853952 2931356 3005607 3046269 3108371 3139914 3170735
2491683 2653956 2763523 2857650 2937610 3006121 3054476 3108381 3140245 3172605
2506212 2654428 2764913 2861698 2943357 3006137 3055642 3108664 3142024 3177725
2509553 2656356 2764916 2862152 2957189 3006625 3059317 3108670 3142042 3178034
2510531 2667402 2770660 2862330 2965788 3010788 3060716 3109094 3145739 3179573
2511455 2676562 2773072 2862335 2966583 3011780 3061518 3109103 3146706
2515325 2685811 2786081 2864202 2968294 3013531 3067903 3109560 3146963
2532531 2685813 2798162 2868038 2972100 3019978 3067904 3110329 3147071
2544893 2685939 2799926 2868116 2972211 3020369 3071756 3115858 3149090
2547666 2690533 2800095 2871997 2973112 3020370 3072305 3121255 3150220
2552343 2698365 2807986 2884256 2973201 3020388 3074543 3122648 3155178
2560656 2703157 2808679 2891804 2973351 3021674 3075226 3123479 3156016
2563227 2705219 2813347 2892074 2977292 3022777 3076895 3124275 3156017
2564958 2718695 2813430 2893294 2978120 3023215 3076949 3126587 3156019
2570947 2719857 2820331 2893519 2978742 3030377 3078601 3127220 3159398
2574819 2727528 2830477 2894844 2984972 3033889 3080079 3133977 3161561
2579686 2729094 2834140 2900986 2985461 3033929 3080446 3135983 3161949
2585542 2732059 2836942 2908783 2991963 3035126 3084135 3137061 3161958
2604115 2732487 2840631 2911501 2992611 3035132 3087039 3138378 3163245
2620704 2736422 2843630 2912390 2993651 3037574 3092601 3138901 3164033
2621440 2742599 2846960 2918077 3003743 3042553 3093513 3138910 3164035

Here are the "bad" KB's:

976923 2923545 3078667 3124280
2506928 2952664 3080149 3125574
2545698 2970228 3086255 3138612
2592687 3021917 3092627 3161102
2660075 3042058 3102429 3167679
2726535 3068707 3118401 3177723


Something I need to look at is the fact that the convienence rollup is offered, and I need to look at what kb's it offers, subtract the "bad" kb's it has and integrate the "good" ones separately into my test installation. So until then this list is only partially complete.
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19 Aug 2016   #4
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Not sure about the bad updates but this is the newest install process
Fairly short and sweet
KB3020369 & KB3172605 KB3125574 from the catalog
Microsoft Update Catalog

Pretty much in line with this article
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...ows-7-and-8-1/

Then if needed you can just deal with ie11 updates if problems occur getting it through the update system
Prerequisite updates for Internet Explorer 11
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2847882
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