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Windows 7: Backup Constantly Fails

02 Sep 2010   #31
WitchKing9

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eldinv View Post
One question does it also fail if you just choose to Create System Image, by itself?
It fails. Miserably. See third picture in 1st post ("Create a Backup Image / The backup failed"). Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm exhausted of ideas...


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02 Sep 2010   #32
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
WitchKing,
No matter what backup program you use, the only wise decision is to backup to another physical drive, be the drive internal or external.

Get yourself an external USB drive-they are quite cheap-and use that as the destination for your backups.
The problem is that each external USB drive may be cheap, but in my experience they are not only slow, but they stop working after a relatively short period of time. These are the external USB drives that I have purchased and used over the last 2 1/2 years...

Western Digital 160 GB- Failed after 9 months

Western Digital 250 GB- Failed after 1 year

Western Digital 1 TB- Failed after 2 years

Seagate 1.5 TB- Failed after 3 months

This is just how things went for me keeping 3 backups of all my Data and Macrium Reflect System Images. There is nothing wrong with buying one of these $100-$200 USB drives all I'm trying to point out is that it very well could turn out to be a short term investment.

Having spent well over $500 on these USB drives that failed so soon after I bought them I took the advise of a friend of mine who sells high end Mac Pro desktops at Pro Photo here in town and purchased a LaCie Hard Disk MAX 2TB Quadra eSATA/FireWire800/FireWire400/USB 2.0 RAID Portable External Hard Drive from Amazon for $234 shipped and the price has gone down since then.



I connected the LaCie Raid 0 drive to my desktop using 3Gbps eSATA wire and its 3X faster than using USB when making a backup Image...



Images that used to take 10 minutes using USB now only take 3:35 minutes using the LaCie Raid 0 drive over eSATA. Just this morning I did a full 7.9 GB Reflect Image restore of the 22.6 GB on the C Drive and it took only 4:40:38 minutes using the LaCie Raid 0 Drive using eSATA.

Another thing that the LaCie has is an onboard cooling fan which extends its longevity. I've heard other LaCie owners say that they have had their Drives for over 4 years without a single incident. I would gladly have taken 2 of these LaCie Drives over the 4 USB drives which I listed above that failed so quickly. It would have saved me many hours of backup and restore time.

BTW- The LaCie also does well with file transfers over eSATA...



~Maxx~
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03 Sep 2010   #33
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

This looks like a good device - although a little pricey. But not all systems have an eSata facility. For those I suggest to install an extra internal disk (no good for laptops though) which is cheaper and gives you the same speed - plus it is also being cooled and will probably live longer than a normal external disk.
I make my daily images to an internal drive and backup once a week and once a month to 2 different external drives. The speed is the same as with the LaCie.


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03 Sep 2010   #34
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

whs- It is a great compliment to the LaCie that it could keep up with your internal HDD! The size of the partition which I back up regularly with Reflect on the LaCie which contains Win 7 is 22.7 GB and the Reflect Image is 7.9 GB. It takes up a lot less HD space than the 24 GB Windows System Image.

I did want to mention that the LaCie Hard Disk MAX 2TB RAID 0 Portable External Hard Drive Quadra has just that 4 inputs which are eSATA/FireWire800/FireWire400/USB. It also has its own temperature regulated cooling fan which as you pointed out will give it a longer life than other non-cooled external HDD's. Concerning using the eSATA interface with laptops there are eSATA/PCI adaptor cards available which make it the fastest alternative for an external HDD.

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04 Sep 2010   #35
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Maxxwire, you are right. The LaCie disk is a great device. But you also have to consider the price. I did not think of the eSata/PCI adaptor for a laptop. But that is a very good option for a laptop (although still more money). For a desktop, I would just stuff an extra HDD into the box (provided there is room and an open port on the mobe). That is the cheapest solution.
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04 Sep 2010   #36
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Installing a pair if SSD Raid 0 drives can prove to be blazing fast...



~Maxx~
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04 Sep 2010   #37
gregrocker

 

If your goal is to keep your backup as recent as possible then I would Move my data into a data partition which will act as a vault should Win7 fail irreparably: User Folders - Change Default Location

Then you only need to reimage from a Backup Image to the OS partition so your OS will be back up and running working drawing data the same data partition where you left off.

As far as keeping an image in your own Recovery partition on the same HD, I do so on all of our computers here. But they need to be copied to another HD - over the network, external, or secondary HD - as soon as you are able in case of HD failure, as was noted.

Back your data up separately. If you are waiting to get another HD or external, it is easier to back up data alone to a DVD for the time being.
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