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Windows 7: Recovery from Image or b/u disk

30 Oct 2010   #31
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
mjf, this is actually a rather common problem.
Well if indeed it is, you shouldn't need to go hunting for an uninstaller.


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30 Oct 2010   #32
nithig

Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1
 
 

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mjf, this is actually a rather common problem.
MS defenders get really hot under the collar when their high church is criticised
but this is just one example of the arrogance of the corporation. To put on a trial copy
of complex software is one thing ... to do so without any instructions of how to remove,
if not wanted, is something else.
It's a shame as the basic OS is good (enjoyed fault free XP for many years) but imho
MS Corporate Culture is its own worst enemy.
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30 Oct 2010   #33
gregrocker

 

Often time uninstalling Office trial and/or Norton damages System Files beyond repair, requiring a superior clean reinstall using a Win7 installer with the Product key on COA sticker.

Normally Net Frameworks are Windows Updates which install and remain as such. Perhaps you didnt' have that one yet. It deals them out as you need them, sometimes behind the curve - resulting in Program features that don't run right without explanation.

When uninstalling bloatware run sfc /scannow regularly to see if System Files need repair, or are already corrupted beyond Repair. Bloatware is corruption of the first order.
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31 Oct 2010   #34
nithig

Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1
 
 

As everyone has been so helpful thought you might like to know what happened.
(Now remember i'm not a techie or a geek, just a bod at home alone who has recently purchased his first laptop after many happy years of desktop running XP Pro which I managed to learn enought about to keep running).

Did a rebuild - as many of you will know Toshiba have a built-in protocol whereby the system can be taken
back to 'out of the box' state.

That all went well ... but before loading my other programs I decided to run the Uninstall Office program (Microsoft Fix it 50154)...clear the decks so to speak. Also removed Norton.
Well that process left me with a mess .... not only were Office Programs still on Start/All Programs but also the various other Office components (Inerop etc) were all still in Contol Pnl/Programs.
Also many features were missing .. such as All the Toshiba Utilities (and there are quite a few!)

This was most unsatisfactory so (phew ...made an Image as prompted earlier in this thread...onto the external HDD) decided to do my first Restore from an Image.
Hallellullah ... I'm just so impressed ... every detail, even browsing history, just as it was. Big relief here.

So now I back up and create regular Images properly

One thing though - still unable to use Syst.Restore ... hasn't worked since computer was new (August '10) - when I run it, it always ends up stating that there was a file missing and so was unable to Restore.
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31 Oct 2010   #35
gregrocker

 

Run SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

If the image you made was of the problem factory restore, what you really need is to find a clean copy Win7 installer for your version to reinstall with the Product key on COA sticker.
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31 Oct 2010   #36
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

nithig
good that you actually did get the ext HDD. The first image I recovered from made the little ext HDD one of my best investments.

But I'm still not clear about the final "rubbish" cleanout. Did you get rid of the trials.
Given that a clean install using a valid key/COA is a legal entitlement, it has puzzled me why getting the install disks isn't easier.
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31 Oct 2010   #37
nithig

Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1
 
 

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But I'm still not clear about the final "rubbish" cleanout. Did you get rid of the trials.
Given that a clean install using a valid key/COA is a legal entitlement, it has puzzled me why getting the install disks isn't easier.
mjf I'm back exactly where I was ... without .NET but yes without the trials
and unable to use Restore.

I don't have install disks ... it is all built into Toshiba and the purchase doesn't come with the OS on disk; only a "Product Recovery Media".

Not sure if I've answered you fully ...
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01 Nov 2010   #38
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nithig View Post
Quote:
But I'm still not clear about the final "rubbish" cleanout. Did you get rid of the trials.
Given that a clean install using a valid key/COA is a legal entitlement, it has puzzled me why getting the install disks isn't easier.
mjf I'm back exactly where I was ... without .NET but yes without the trials
and unable to use Restore.

I don't need install disks ... it is all built into Toshiba and the purchase doesn't come with the OS on disk; only a "Product Recovery Media".

Not sure if I've answered you fully ...
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gregrocker - when I enter the scannow command into 'Run' (system won't let me do it directly into dos window ...thinks I'm not the Admin, but I am...there's no one else & I avoid using an Admin p/word) the dos window flashes for an instant & is gone.
Well the unistall issue isn't resolved.
A clean install using the Windows install disks and your COA is not a factory recovery which is I think what you did.

sfc/scannow
type cmd in search
right click on cmd.exe
run as Administrator
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01 Nov 2010   #39
nithig

Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1
 
 

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A clean install using the Windows install disks
Sorry to be slow mjf but what Win install disks? As I mentioned the purchase didn't come with OS disks.
COA ? don't understand this acronym
(What I did was use Toshiba facility to return system to "out of the box" state ... ie as it was when first purchased.)

thanks for instuction re scannow ... worked that out between posts!
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01 Nov 2010   #40
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

you're not slow just new. Much of this is about familiarity and being pointed in the right direction.

A clean install is one that is the same as a boxed retail ie. without the trial software. You can use these install disks with Certificate of Authentication key which should stuck onto your PC somewhere. Now this is not fully equivalent to a boxed retail version of the OS because it can only be used on your PC. The full retail version cost more $ and can be moved to a new machine.
An advantage of the factory install is that they have bundled all the drivers as well. Windows should download most of what you need but this can't be guaranteed.

The real issue for me is that you should be able to easily say no to trial software and get rid of it without impacting on the performance of the OS you have paid for.
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