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Windows 7: Acronis True Image 10. How does it Work?

09 Jun 2009   #11
noyb

XP MCE .... XP Pro 64 .... W7 U x64
 
 

You said you where moving from 500GB to 1TB .. This scares me.
If you have as much personal data included in the OS as I suspect ...
You may want to consider partitioning the System and all the Data separately.

I use ATI to backup/recover my operation system ..
and plain ole Copy>Paste for my data.

I can recover my OS in about 10 minutes .. and not bother with the data Partition ..
of rebuild it later when I have the time.




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09 Jun 2009   #12
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGUNTHERC View Post
You're also saying use True Image 11. I have 10. will that work with 7 if I get the latest updates.

I didn't have time yesterday. so I'll do tomorrow.

so, say I do a complete image right now. but then I install 7201. Can I use that image and only extract the things I want.

Like can I image almost everything but the OS. or is it all or nothing?
I have used v7 and v11. V11 is more flexible on specifying backup and restore of a) entire disk or b) specific partition or c) specific folders/files.

It also includes an "explore image" functionality. This allows one to simply click to open the image file, explore it as if it were a disk drive and copy specific files/folder from the image file back to the some location on the hard drive.

V10 - I don't know. I suggest you try it and find out. Also, RTFM as they say . I know that some older versions of ATI had problems with SATA drivers in the ATI Emergency Recovery CD. So be advised to create an emergency recovery CD and TEST IT! Boot to the recovery CD and verify that it can "see" all your drives and partitions.

Note that you WILL have to register your product version with Acronis in order to logon to the support site and download updates specific to your product version.

Also note, personally, I DO NOT restore entire partitions from the OS. Acronis can do it but I just don't. If it is just specific files/folders, no problem. But if it is an entire partition restore I boot to the Acronis Recovery CD to do the restore. Especially any boot partitions!


When all else fails read the manual. Then test and try a backup/restore procedure BEFORE you actually need it! This is sound advice regardless of what backup/restore tool you may have chosen.
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28 Jul 2009   #13
Barefoot

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Whatever image software you use, take the time to get confidence in it. As the previous poster said, it's absolutely useless without the ability to restore, so the only way to get comfortable is to backup and restore before you are desperate.

Acronis has been very stable for me. I've moved up the latest version, but I may be odd in that I always boot to the disc to make an image.

I had a question though. I had XP installed with plenty of room on the next partition, so I installed 7. Then when I restored an XP backup on the first partition it overwrote the MBR that 7 had created. There must be a way to back up the MBR so I can restore XP or 7 independent of each other. Otherwise what is the use of having a dual boot system with awesome imaging software. The disadvantage of imaging outside of Windows is no ability to cut and paste your description of the Date, time OS, partition configuration, hard drive, motherboard, software, updates and patches installed. It can get tedious towards the end when you have a lot of information to input. When running it from Windows I would just keep a running tab in notepad or similar.
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29 Jul 2009   #14
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
ATI Home 2009

I had ATI Home 2009 Installed on Win 7 RC (7100) and had some problems. The cursor would disappear off and on. etc. But the biggest complaint I had was I couldn't mount an image. When I clicked on mount it would start and after a while it would time out and say it couldn't assign a drive letter. While it was working I could call explorer and see the image with an assigned drive letter. When ATI gave up the drive would disappear from explorer. I haven't reloaded it into the RTM yet which is what I am running now. Some where I seen a post for "snapAPIsetup.msi" which I am not familiar with should it be run prior to install or post install?

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29 Jul 2009   #15
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I had similar issues with Acronis.

I use Paragon and Macrium instead .

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30 Jul 2009   #16
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barefoot View Post
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I had a question though. I had XP installed with plenty of room on the next partition, so I installed 7. Then when I restored an XP backup on the first partition it overwrote the MBR that 7 had created. There must be a way to back up the MBR so I can restore XP or 7 independent of each other. Otherwise what is the use of having a dual boot system with awesome imaging software.
I am using ATI Home 11. So it may vary in 2009.

If you are restoring from an image backup of a disk/parttion one of the options to restore is "Track 0 and MBR".

From the ATI Help file:

"Select a Disk/Partition to Restore

The selected archive file can contain images of several partitions or even disks.

Flag a disk/partition to select it for restoring

Disk images contain a copy of track 0 along with a MBR (Master Boot Record). It appears in this window in a separate line. You can choose whether to restore a MBR and track 0 by checking the respective box. Restore the MBR if it is critical to your system boot."

Based on your description you restored an XP image created before the WIN7 Install. In which case it restored the MBR that existed when ONLY XP was installed. I have not tried this particular sequence. Perhaps after the XP image restore the MBR and Track 0 needed to be restored from an image that contained the LATEST MBR and Track 0 information for the disk, one which included BOTH boot partitions.
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30 Jul 2009   #17
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HammerHead View Post
I had ATI Home 2009 Installed on Win 7 RC (7100) and had some problems. The cursor would disappear off and on. etc. But the biggest complaint I had was I couldn't mount an image. When I clicked on mount it would start and after a while it would time out and say it couldn't assign a drive letter. While it was working I could call explorer and see the image with an assigned drive letter. When ATI gave up the drive would disappear from explorer. I haven't reloaded it into the RTM yet which is what I am running now. Some where I seen a post for "snapAPIsetup.msi" which I am not familiar with should it be run prior to install or post install?


Did you go to the Acronis Support Site, register your ATI product and download and install the latest update?

I know that ATI Home 11 is working fine. Just don't use it to parttion disks. And I don't suggest Windows Disk Manager for parttioning either as I have discussed in previous posts.
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30 Jul 2009   #18
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 
Acronis - Seagate DiscWizard

I'm using Seagate DiscWizard (free from Seagate if you have at least one Seagate or Maxtor HD in your system), which is a limited version of Acronis mainly for clonning, backup and restore. There is limited partition function when Clonning a new disc.
I've done several backups and restored with it a couple of times.
I had to read the manual (a couple of paragraphs only!) to figure out how to get the restore to do what I wanted.
Not completely intutive but easy enough after the first time.

Initially, I installed Win7 on my eSATA external HD, got it all setup and then found I wanted to use it as my primary OS. Today I re-partitioned my internal HD, thought I would see if 7 would run if I just restored it (obviously new to backup images), of coarse it didn't. Reformatted the partition, installed Win7 from my USB Win7 RC installation memory stick, activated it (but don't think I needed to) restored my backup from the external HD and got everything, all drivers, all updates, all additional software, working as it was on the external HD. As it is suppose to work.

External HD Win7 partition 30GB, Internal HD partition 80GB, the different sized partition didn't bother the restore.

Would restoring this image on a new partition and then running repair from the installation USB have done the same thing? Made it bootable?
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30 Jul 2009   #19
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
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External HD Win7 partition 30GB, Internal HD partition 80GB, the different sized partition didn't bother the restore.

Would restoring this image on a new partition and then running repair from the installation USB have done the same thing? Made it bootable?
When you attempted to boot to the restored Win7 parttion was there any error message? If so that would be clue....

Depending on any error message I may have tried the Vista (and Win7) Recovery Environment" "bootrec /fixmbr" command. But, again, I have not needed to use it much in Win7 (yet).

Fixing "BOOTMGR is missing" Error While Trying to Boot Windows Vista :: the How-To Geek

Just ensure you keep a good image backup protected until you feel confident the repair was successful....
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30 Jul 2009   #20
Barefoot

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Seagate "Diskwizard" is very large and it's a disk manager, which means it will always have control of the MBR, which means you can't use any other software to create or re-size partitions. If you can live with that then it's fine. I had an improperly dismounted partition on a Seagate drive and generic partition software would not work until that partition table error was fixed.

One added benefit I hadn't used before in Acronis was it's ability to delete and create a partition on the very same drive that Seagate said only Diskwizard would be able to fix.
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