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15 Dec 2010   #31
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

whs- Thanks for the specs, but as we all know maximum R&W benchmark specs and the actual bandwidth that an interface operates at in use on a computer are much different. For example USB 2 has usually always operated at <1/3 of its rated bandwidth on my computer which is why I'd be interested in seeing an actual screenshot of an Image backup being made with Reflect while using USB 3.

~Maxx~




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15 Dec 2010   #32
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I will make one in a couple of weeks when I have my new Laptop up and running. Remind me then.
Btw: those were real test figures.
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16 Dec 2010   #33
N2Abyss

Windows 7 Home premium 64bit SP 1
 
 

With my ASUS pcie usb3 card and the Iomega eGo usb3 drive, I'm getting an average transfer rate of 397.9 mb/s. with 37.1 gb of the C: drive data being imaged in around 5.5 minutes.
Which now leads me to believe the Macrium software is not utilizing the full potential of the backup media system?
Bret
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16 Dec 2010   #34
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by N2Abyss View Post
With my ASUS pcie usb3 card and the Iomega eGo usb3 drive, I'm getting an average transfer rate of 397.9 mb/s. with 37.1 gb of the C: drive data being imaged in around 5.5 minutes.
Which now leads me to believe the Macrium software is not utilizing the full potential of the backup media system?
Bret
Reflect only uses about 1/2 as much potential speed as my LaCie eSATA drive shows on benchmarks.



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16 Dec 2010   #35
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Hi All,

Been following this topic with interest and decided to give Macrium a quick twirl. I have a few questions:

1. Im interested in imaging my C: drive - this contains my OS and Apps. When I select the drive, do I also need to select the 100MB System Reserved Partition? It appaers to be slightly greyed out, so I'm guessing (without actually trying it) that I can't actually select it, and don't need to?

2. Assuming I can successfully image my C: drive (and create a Linux boot disk), can I reintsall the image to a brand new SSD that has never been used? Is it better to install fresh to an SSD the long way, or does the image restoration do just as good a job : note, this is a brand new SSD, nothing has yet been installed on it.

As you can guess, Im moving from HDD's to SSD's, and wonder whether a fresh installation is the way to go, or whether image restoration is just as good. This is a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 system.

What say you?
Golden
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16 Dec 2010   #36
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
Hi All,

Been following this topic with interest and decided to give Macrium a quick twirl. I have a few questions:

1. Im interested in imaging my C: drive - this contains my OS and Apps. When I select the drive, do I also need to select the 100MB System Reserved Partition? It appaers to be slightly greyed out, so I'm guessing (without actually trying it) that I can't actually select it, and don't need to?

2. Assuming I can successfully image my C: drive (and create a Linux boot disk), can I reintsall the image to a brand new SSD that has never been used? Is it better to install fresh to an SSD the long way, or does the image restoration do just as good a job : note, this is a brand new SSD, nothing has yet been installed on it.

As you can guess, Im moving from HDD's to SSD's, and wonder whether a fresh installation is the way to go, or whether image restoration is just as good. This is a Windows 7 Ultimate x64 system.

What say you?
Golden
ad1) I suggest to image the 100MB partition only once and keep it in a seperate folder - just in case. That partition really never changes (unless you decide e.g. for a double boot) and need not be imaged every time.
But yes, you can image several partitions together but recover only one at a time (for good reason)

ad2) yes you can do that. But there are a few things you have to remember:

1. free Macrium can only recover to a partition of equal or larger size. So your imaged partition must have been equal or smaller in size thn the SSD - and I mean partition, not actual data or size of the image.
If you want to install an image of a big partition to a smaller SSD, you need Macrium Pro, but free Paragon can do that too

2. You first need to define a partition primary (for the active partition) on the SSD and align that. Here is how. When you do a fresh install of Win7, the installer does that for you. With the 100MB partition present, it gets a bit messy. It is a little easier with the Win7 imaging in that case because it drags the 100MB partition along. I am not sure though how Win7 imaging deals with recovery of a "large" partition to a "small" SSD.

Bottom line, it is easier if you did a fresh installation provided you have the installation disk. However, the imaging path is the best way to go if you have a preinstalled OEM operating system and no installation disk.
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16 Dec 2010   #37
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Paragon sent me an app. called Migrate to ssd - haven't tried it yet, but it looks good.

Paragon Migrate OS to SSD - Overview
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16 Dec 2010   #38
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Paragon sent me an app. called Migrate to ssd - haven't tried it yet, but it looks good.

Paragon Migrate OS to SSD - Overview
That looks good, but they want $20 for it. I wonder whether the Win7 native imaging would not do the same thing (because they drag the 10MB partition along). If it was not for the 100MB partition, any old imaging program should do.
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16 Dec 2010   #39
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Not exactly, the Paragon app. will migrate to a smaller ssd or HD , and let you exclude folders, as well as aligning during the migration.
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16 Dec 2010   #40
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

SIW and WHS:

Is there an over-riding reason NOT to image from an HDD to an SSD when migrating to SSD technology---rather than doing a clean install to the SSD?

I will be facing this issue within months. I have an install disc and have always done clean installs, but if I can get by with imaging, why not?

I have seen people imply clean is preferred, but is imaging more problematic when the destination is SSD rather than HDD? Any problems other than possibly alignment--which I understand can be corrected after the fact?

I do NOT have the 100 MB system partition.

I would likely use Macrium Free, but have access to Acronis as well.
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