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Windows 7: Images are more important than ever

19 Mar 2011   #51
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Been there, done that too.


System Reserved : Multi Boot from Logical Partitions


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19 Mar 2011   #52
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

@fafhrd

I'm fully familiar with Acer's PQService, it's contents and system reserved.
PQService can be imaging and restored easily including to a new HDD.
What you have done is not what we have been discussing.
I (we?) have been talking about making the boot partition logical.

I find your 5 primary partions plus one extended puzzling.

@BFK
I'd like an answer to my post #45. Still waiting.
BFK have you done this on a store bought PC like an Acer or HP with preinstalled OEM OS?

Also, a separately bought OEM OS does not mean a OS supplied by a PC manufacturer.
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19 Mar 2011   #53
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post

@BFK
I'd like an answer to my post #25. Still waiting.
BFK have you done this on a store bought PC like an Acer or HP with preinstalled OEM OS?
Post #25 is not yours, what's the question again?

No I have not but whs says he has several times.
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19 Mar 2011   #54
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Yes, I have for a couple of guys at the computer club. But I do not remember the make of the laptops. I think one was a Toshiba.
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19 Mar 2011   #55
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

It certainly doesn't work on an ACER X1800.
Maybe it works on some but I think a bit of caution is warranted.
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19 Mar 2011   #56
fafhrd

Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS
 
 

MJF:

The Windows 7 Disk Management console misreads the Linux partitions as primary, they are actually set up as logical partitions in the same extended partition as the XP and Swap volumes, as the XP Disk Management view shows. (see my edited post)

Windows boot SYSTEM partitions must be Primary, Active. It's a Microsoft rule since DOS days.
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19 Mar 2011   #57
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
MJF:

The Windows 7 Disk Management console misreads the Linux partitions as primary, they are actually set up as logical partitions in the same extended partition as the XP and Swap volumes, as the XP Disk Management view shows. (see my edited post)
That explains it.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
Windows boot partitions must be Primary, Active. It's a Microsoft rule since DOS days.
In Windows 7 the boot partition can be logical, provide the bootmgr and BCD reside in a primary partition (the 100MB system reserved partition).
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19 Mar 2011   #58
fafhrd

Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS
 
 

Definitions for system volume and boot volume

I admit that you are right, according to Microsoft above - the boot files reside on the System volume, and the System files reside on the Boot volume. Logical, or what?
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19 Mar 2011   #59
BrotherInkjet

Windows 7
 
 
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Now that we learned that a Repair/Install of an SP1 system is impossible or very difficult ( Repair Install ), it is more important than ever that people are being encouraged to image frequently.

I keep about 10 current images and stash away another set of older images all the way back to the initial installation. It is also a good strategy to keep images on 2 or 3 different disks and even use 2 different imaging programs - just to be on the safe side. The day you need an image to get yourself out of a tight spot, you will applaud yourself for these measures.
I thought You were talking about digital images. Anyway, I agree that you should always have another option for everything to avoid dealing with problems in case troubles arise
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19 Mar 2011   #60
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
Definitions for system volume and boot volume

I admit that you are right, according to Microsoft above - the boot files reside on the System volume, and the System files reside on the Boot volume. Logical, or what?
No it's not logical is it (puns flying everywhere). Third party software often uses the logical terminology which is the reverse to MS.
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