Why is my D drive included (mandatory) in system image?

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  1. Posts : 687
    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional / Windows 7 Professional
       #11

    Phone Man said:
    I can't confirm this but I have read that on a new system when installing onto a SSD that the other mechanical drives should be removed as Windows will install the bootmanager onto the mechanical drive by default. This may have happened in your case.
    Jim
    fud at its finest...

    stop messing with weird partition schemes while on windows setup or unplug any other drive before installing windows, and let setup create the apropiate one on the current drive, no more problems.
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  2. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #12

    Phone Man said:
    I can't confirm this but I have read that on a new system when installing onto a SSD that the other mechanical drives should be removed as Windows will install the bootmanager onto the mechanical drive by default. This may have happened in your case.

    Jim
    I would say when installing Windows on any sort of drive you are safer to have all other drives disconnected and the OS drive plugged into Sata Port 0.
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  3. Posts : 1,965
    win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
       #13

    At Install


    Yet another case for unplugging all drives but the target when doing an install.
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  4. whs
    Posts : 26,210
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #14

    I would just move the bootmgr from D: to C: - a 2 minute job. Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD Then just tell the BIOS to boot from that disk.
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  5. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Hi all, I was gone for most of the weekend, but I see that it has yielded some excellent replies!

    So far, I've gathered from the answers that it is probable that Windows created the boot partition on the D drive instead of on C, and that it probably needs to be moved before I can create a system image without D.

    @Maguscreed: Thanks, I'll look into that way, if the way Whs posted fails.

    @seavixen32: Or I'll try your way as well :)

    @mjf: As this involves messing around with the drives more than the above options, I'll try it if the others fail. Thanks for recommending Macrium Reflect, I'll use it to make an image before messing around :)

    @zigzag3413
    The text that you highlighted:
    "Do you by any chance have a pagefile on D? Or maybe applications installed on D? Or have you movced the Documents folder to D? If any or all of these are true, Windows Will see the drive as part of the 'system' and bank it up accordingly.."
    Pagefily? No. Applications? No. Documents folder? No.
    "or other OS componenet on that drive", a line you just added yourself? Yes, *probably*.
    From the posts here (all posted after the above comment) I've gathered that it is most likely that the D drive contains the boot partition, due to Windows picking mechanical drives over SSD's. But don't come telling me that Mike told me so at the MSA forum :)
    (I just now noticed your signature... I guess it's a personal matter for you )

    @Phone Man: Ah! This is what I sort of expected, guess it seems to be in the right direction...

    @OldMX: Next time I will... I've been installing with multiple drives attached since win 95, never gave problems before so I never thought about it much :P

    @mjf: I always use drive 0 for system, but as above, I've never disconnected all the other drives first. The more you know!

    @HammerHead: Yup, found out the hard way :P

    @whs: Thanks! Your option seems the most easy and straightforward one, I'll try that one first.


    So... thanks all for you replies and thinking along with this issue!

    I'll go and try the options later today or tomorrow, and I'll post the results of course!
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  6. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Just to confirm D indeed contains the Boot partition, according to EasyBCD:

    Default: Windows 7
    Timeout: 30 seconds
    EasyBCD Boot Device: D:\

    Entry #1
    Name: Windows 7
    BCD ID: {current}
    Drive: C:\
    Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe


    and so:

    ---------------------------
    Boot Partition Changed
    ---------------------------
    EasyBCD has successfully made drive C: the new boot partition, and has loaded the new BCD store for modification, should you wish to make any further changes. If this partition is on your first boot disk, you don't need to take any further action. If it's not, you should now turn off your PC and change the boot drive from the BIOS for the changes to take effect.
    ---------------------------
    OK
    ---------------------------

    I'll now go into the bios to see what drive is set to boot from, and I'll edit this post when I come back

    Edit:

    Victory! I've changed the drive to boot from in the Bios as said, and:



    W00t

    One last small question though: In the bios, it said my SSD was ch6 while my other drives said ch0, ch0, ch1 and ch1.. does that mean that in the end I did plug it in incorrectly? Windows itself says C is Disk0 though...
    Last edited by DeltaBlast; 18 Mar 2012 at 10:27. Reason: Victory!
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  7. whs
    Posts : 26,210
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #17

    Don't worry about the port. Any port is OK. The only difference is Sata2 or Sata3. If your SSD is a Sata3 SSD, it is better to plug it into a Sata3 port - but it would also work on a Sata2 port. You probably did plug it into the Sata3 port which may be one of the highest ports on the mobo - and that is fine.

    The story that one should plug the OS disk into port0 is only significant when you make a fresh install because the Windows 7 installer normally always places the bootmgr on the disk with the lowest port number - as you have seen. But that is easy to fix - as you have also seen.
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  8. Posts : 6,668
    Windows 7 x64
       #18

    yeah, I suppose some of my advice was rendered a little useless considering that bios now have a much better boot management in general.
    On older systems I still recommend the port 0 method.
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  9. Posts : 10,796
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #19

    DeltaBlast said:
    Just to confirm D indeed contains the Boot partition, according to EasyBCD:

    Default: Windows 7
    Timeout: 30 seconds
    EasyBCD Boot Device: D:\

    Entry #1
    Name: Windows 7
    BCD ID: {current}
    Drive: C:\
    Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe


    and so:

    ---------------------------
    Boot Partition Changed
    ---------------------------
    EasyBCD has successfully made drive C: the new boot partition, and has loaded the new BCD store for modification, should you wish to make any further changes. If this partition is on your first boot disk, you don't need to take any further action. If it's not, you should now turn off your PC and change the boot drive from the BIOS for the changes to take effect.
    ---------------------------
    OK
    ---------------------------

    I'll now go into the bios to see what drive is set to boot from, and I'll edit this post when I come back

    Edit:

    Victory! I've changed the drive to boot from in the Bios as said, and:



    W00t

    One last small question though: In the bios, it said my SSD was ch6 while my other drives said ch0, ch0, ch1 and ch1.. does that mean that in the end I did plug it in incorrectly? Windows itself says C is Disk0 though...
    D and R are still marked ACTIVE so possible boot partitions. Mark them INACTIVE
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  10. Posts : 107
    Windows 7
       #20

    Another thing that can cause huge backups is those useless Libraries. If you have a reference to another drive's data then that gets added to the backup, or at least it was when Win7 first came out and I stopped using Libraries because of it.
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