Google Drive or Skydrive.

Course there is also Google's TOS to consider... :)

They WILL read and scan everything you put up there... (Maybe skydrive too but with Google you can be sure)

I'm betting that the no trash can thing is merely an extension of the thinking about how Windows networking works in general. There are no trash cans on network drives either. I HAVE accidentally deleted things off a network drive that I didn't want to and had to go to backups to restore. But it's rare. And anything I put on skydrive will not be for backup purposes, it'll be for wide acess so it won;t be possible to "lose" anything with an accidental deletion.

Leave it to MS for consciously crippling the use of their product though... not working on XP etc. that kind of thing will constantly cause them to lose in the long run. Surely SOMEONE there sees that???

fseal said:

Course there is also Google's TOS to consider... :)

They WILL read and scan everything you put up there... (Maybe skydrive too but with Google you can be sure)

I'm betting that the no trash can thing is merely an extension of the thinking about how Windows networking works in general. There are no trash cans on network drives either. I HAVE accidentally deleted things off a network drive that I didn't want to and had to go to backups to restore. But it's rare. And anything I put on skydrive will not be for backup purposes, it'll be for wide acess so it won;t be possible to "lose" anything with an accidental deletion.

Leave it to MS for consciously crippling the use of their product though... not working on XP etc. that kind of thing will constantly cause them to lose in the long run. Surely SOMEONE there sees that???

I read this yesterday on a blog entry I was astonished at what rights Google is asking for. I just can not digest that Google can read, scan, republish, reproduce, edit and can also send the information to anyone they want. I just can not.

YBL

youllbelost said:

SkyDrive will permanently delete the file is deleted from the skydrive(that's online) but when you delete a file from your PC it will sync it to the skydrive rendering it unrecoverable. This seems to me a good feature to fight useless outdated data, on the other side, you may feel a "risk" of losing your data.

Assume you use SkyDrive as a backup. You place all of your digital pictures in your skydrive folder. You get a virus/malware/corruption that damages or deletes the files in this folder. In just a few seconds/minutes, it's replicated to Skydrive. Oopsie.

youllbelost said:

But what I cannot understand is why and how could anyone accidently(accidentally?) delete an important file. If a multiple users have access to your data then I think its not important enough.

Again, assume it's your digital pictures. It wouldn't be outlandish for you and your spouse and potentially your kids to have access to them. There are many ways a file could be accidentally deleted.

if you don't believe it possible see this thread. delete pictures

youllbelost said:

SkyDrive will permanently delete the file is deleted from the skydrive(that's online) but when you delete a file from your PC it will sync it to the skydrive rendering it unrecoverable. This seems to me a good feature to fight useless outdated data, on the other side, you may feel a "risk" of losing your data.

Assume you use SkyDrive as a backup. You place all of your digital pictures in your skydrive folder. You get a virus/malware/corruption that damages or deletes the files in this folder. In just a few seconds/minutes, it's replicated to Skydrive. Oopsie.


You certainly have a point, and it is worth considering. (I did not think about viruses as they are not so common to me, I download heavily but I didnt have any virus issues since a year.)They should add a recycle bin.
But lets just say, wouldn't this risk be inevitable in every cloud storage which syncs your files from your machine ? Moreover, you still haven't considered the benefits of the syncing feature. It would certainly help fight you have the newest version of a file/folder, otherwise if you modify it often you may have multiple versions of the same folder in your cloud eating space that you never wanted to(in the recycle bin).
If they add something that sandboxes your files and also a virus scan while uploading then it becomes more safe.

I think most of the people provide a different user accounts for kids/spouse/guests ?

P.S. Also, Google's policy is creepy.
YBL.

youllbelost said:

You certainly have a point, and it is worth considering. (I did not think about viruses as they are not so common to me, I download heavily but I didnt have any virus issues since a year.)

I don't think I have personally had a virus or malware on a personal machine of my own in over 5 years now.

youllbelost said:

They should add a recycle bin.
But lets just say, wouldn't this risk be inevitable in every cloud storage which syncs your files from your machine ?

Yes, you have that risk. But with a recycle bin or better yet, a previous versions tab, you can recover from a prior point before the problem occurred.

youllbelost said:

Moreover, you still haven't considered the benefits of the syncing feature. It would certainly help fight you have the newest version of a file/folder, otherwise if you modify it often you may have multiple versions of the same folder in your cloud eating space that you never wanted to(in the recycle bin).

I'm not failing to consider that benefit. I use robocopy with the /MIR switch which mirrors the source to the destination. So, if I delete files from the source, it removes it from the destination. But robocoopy I either run manually or scheduled and control when it fires off. This way, if I made a mistake, it doens't get automatically duplicated.

youllbelost said:

I think most of the people provide a different user accounts for kids/spouse/guests ?

Yes, my wife has her own account. But it has read/write access to the picture folder. This way, when she takes pictures with the digital camera, she can copy them up to the file server where they belong.

bigcitycat said:

I have system images of my disc but what I want to know is. What happens to your information on skydrive if you have to do a system recovery without a back up.

If you reformat or reimage your machine and reinstall skydrive or google drive, it will see your empty local folder and will copy down the stuff from the cloud to that folder.

bigcitycat said:

Can Google or Skydrive read a truecrypt container?

Well, you can put a truecrypt container into a Google Drive or SkyDrive folder. Then you can mount it when you need it. If you are asking whether Google or MS can see inside of your truecrypt, the answer is NO.

How about the Amazon Cloud Drive ?

YBL.