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Windows 7: Will system image restore wipe my hidden OEM partition ? Help

18 Jan 2013   #11
whs
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Thanks Colin. Saves me a trip.


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18 Jan 2013   #12
gjhomes

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18 Jan 2013   #13
mjf

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So the question is, in my case, which is greyed out and unchecked (ie. option 2), does this mean that my OEM partition will not be wiped or does the greyed out checkbox just mean I dont have a choice but it will be wiped regardless. Anyone know through experience etc ??
You should be fine as long as the format is unchecked.
But:
Even though I'm a Windows Imaging troglodyte I definitely use Macrium Reflect as well. Macrium is an excellent product and if I had to use just one it would be Macrium
In your case I would not bother with Windows inbuilt. Why? Because I it looks like Dell have the boot files (bootmgr and BCD) in the recovery partition which appears to be common practice with Dell. This is why Windows imaging insists on imaging your recovery partition. With Macrium I would keep a separate image of the recovery partition but normally just image and restore the main OS partition.
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18 Jan 2013   #14
whs
Microsoft MVP

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Quote:
Because I it looks like Dell have the boot files (bootmgr and BCD) in the recovery partition which appears to be common practice with Dell
Michael, you are absolutely correct. It was the case on both my Dell systems. That's why I copy the bootmgr to C, then I need to only image C and avoid all problems. Here is how I do it: Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
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18 Jan 2013   #15
SIW2

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Third party imaging programs are easier.

I have used many.

I am using a new free one now:

AOMEI Data Backuper ? free disk imaging and cloning software, backup and recovery for your computer.

Great interface, all the functions most people need, and it will create pe media without WAIK/WADK download.
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18 Jan 2013   #16
gjhomes

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gjhomes View Post
So the question is, in my case, which is greyed out and unchecked (ie. option 2), does this mean that my OEM partition will not be wiped or does the greyed out checkbox just mean I dont have a choice but it will be wiped regardless. Anyone know through experience etc ??
You should be fine as long as the format is unchecked.
But:
Even though I'm a Windows Imaging troglodyte I definitely use Macrium Reflect as well. Macrium is an excellent product and if I had to use just one it would be Macrium
In your case I would not bother with Windows inbuilt. Why? Because I it looks like Dell have the boot files (bootmgr and BCD) in the recovery partition which appears to be common practice with Dell. This is why Windows imaging insists on imaging your recovery partition. With Macrium I would keep a separate image of the recovery partition but normally just image and restore the main OS partition.
mjf, thanks for your helpful response. So from your response, my understanding is that given that the OEM partition was not being imaged (hopefully a valid assumption) in the first place, a restoration will not interfere with that partition. !!! So I should be safe using Windows Imaging to restore my system partition. It just means that should my whole drive die, then i wont have a backup of the OEM partition. Thats cool if my understanding is correct. Please correct me if i am wrong. Note that i do have factory supplied recovery disks so in the event of my disk dying, i am banking on the fact that I could recover the OEM partion, as well as the Recovery and System partions to factory condition using these disks. From that point, i assume I could then use the Windows system image to replace the factory image of the System partition with the latest System partion so ultimately end up with all partions, but including the latest System partition.

If on the other hand i were to use Macrium (and admitadly this is starting to sound really good), i could probably do an initial image of all partitions (including the hidden OEM partition), but then just do time to time updates of the System partition only ? Is this a good enough strategy ? I take it if i ever do need to do a full restore of all partitions, the fact that I am not doing concurrent images of the OEM and Recovery partitions concurrently with the System partition will not stuff things up ? Also, would Macrium be able to image the OEM partition (which Windows cant) ?

Sorry for bombarding you with questions. Trying to sort this out.
Thanks for you help
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18 Jan 2013   #17
gjhomes

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Third party imaging programs are easier.

I have used many.

I am using a new free one now:

AOMEI Data Backuper ? free disk imaging and cloning software, backup and recovery for your computer.

Great interface, all the functions most people need, and it will create pe media without WAIK/WADK download.
Thanks. Will take a look
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18 Jan 2013   #18
gjhomes

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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Because I it looks like Dell have the boot files (bootmgr and BCD) in the recovery partition which appears to be common practice with Dell
Michael, you are absolutely correct. It was the case on both my Dell systems. That's why I copy the bootmgr to C, then I need to only image C and avoid all problems. Here is how I do it: Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD
Thaks for the link. Will take a look.
When you use Macrium, can you create and image of the hidden OEM partition as well (assuming you wanted to) ?
Regards
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18 Jan 2013   #19
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Sure, you will see it on the Macrium window. Have a look at this tutorial - I made it special for you, LOL: Imaging with free Macrium
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19 Jan 2013   #20
gjhomes

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Sure, you will see it on the Macrium window. Have a look at this tutorial - I made it special for you, LOL: Imaging with free Macrium
Thanks. Thats great if it does. If i go this way with Macrium, I would first do images of all partitions and archive these. I would only then continually redo the image of the main windows system partition on a regular basis to reflect changes to my windows operating system and software etc. If my Windows files ever get corrupt, my intention is to restore just the windows system partition. However if the whole hard disk dies, then i have the option of restoring all partitions on a new disk. Does this sound like a good plan ?
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